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Products, Services and Other Revenues (Tables) | 9 Months Ended
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Sep. 30, 2023
Revenue from Contract with Customer [Abstract] |
Schedule Of Revenues From Contracts With Customers By Type | The following tables present revenues from contracts with customers by type, all of which are included in products revenues and services and other revenues in the consolidated statements of income (loss) and comprehensive income (loss), along with a reconciliation to total products revenues and services and other revenues.
| Quarter Ended September 30,
| 2023 |  | 2022
(dollars in thousands) | Markel Ventures |  | Other |  | Total |  | Markel Ventures |  | Other |  | Total
Products | $ | 585,707 |  |  | $ | — |  |  | $ | 585,707 |  |  | $ | 575,277 |  |  | $ | — |  |  | $ | 575,277 |
Services | 597,512 |  |  | 2,904 |  |  | 600,416 |  |  | 594,717 |  |  | 11,529 |  |  | 606,246 |
Investment management | — |  |  | 44,204 |  |  | 44,204 |  |  | — |  |  | 15,641 |  |  | 15,641 |
Total revenues from contracts with customers | 1,183,219 |  |  | 47,108 |  |  | 1,230,327 |  |  | 1,169,994 |  |  | 27,170 |  |  | 1,197,164 |
Program services and other fronting | — |  |  | 39,499 |  |  | 39,499 |  |  | — |  |  | 40,033 |  |  | 40,033 |
Equity method investments income (loss) | (21) |  |  | 4,264 |  |  | 4,243 |  |  | (546) |  |  | (6,555) |  |  | (7,101) |
Other | 62,379 |  |  | (9,297) |  |  | 53,082 |  |  | 46,298 |  |  | 1,790 |  |  | 48,088 |
Total | $ | 1,245,577 |  |  | $ | 81,574 |  |  | $ | 1,327,151 |  |  | $ | 1,215,746 |  |  | $ | 62,438 |  |  | $ | 1,278,184 |
| Nine Months Ended September 30,
| 2023 |  | 2022
(dollars in thousands) | Markel Ventures |  | Other |  | Total |  | Markel Ventures |  | Other |  | Total
Products | $ | 1,921,773 |  |  | $ | — |  |  | $ | 1,921,773 |  |  | $ | 1,809,276 |  |  | $ | — |  |  | $ | 1,809,276 |
Services | 1,652,187 |  |  | 7,542 |  |  | 1,659,729 |  |  | 1,593,946 |  |  | 41,547 |  |  | 1,635,493 |
Investment management | — |  |  | 76,108 |  |  | 76,108 |  |  | — |  |  | 55,197 |  |  | 55,197 |
Total revenues from contracts with customers | 3,573,960 |  |  | 83,650 |  |  | 3,657,610 |  |  | 3,403,222 |  |  | 96,744 |  |  | 3,499,966 |
Program services and other fronting | — |  |  | 105,952 |  |  | 105,952 |  |  | — |  |  | 103,096 |  |  | 103,096 |
Disposition gain | — |  |  | 16,923 |  |  | 16,923 |  |  | — |  |  | 107,293 |  |  | 107,293 |
Equity method investments income (loss) | 1,087 |  |  | (1,485) |  |  | (398) |  |  | 1,537 |  |  | (37,639) |  |  | (36,102) |
Other | 160,282 |  |  | (12,258) |  |  | 148,024 |  |  | 122,670 |  |  | 10,773 |  |  | 133,443 |
Total | $ | 3,735,329 |  |  | $ | 192,782 |  |  | $ | 3,928,111 |  |  | $ | 3,527,429 |  |  | $ | 280,267 |  |  | $ | 3,807,696 |

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