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Investments in Distressed Loans and Foreclosed Real Estate (Details) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified | 3 Months Ended |  |
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Jan. 31, 2013 | Jan. 31, 2012 | Oct. 31, 2012 | Dec. 28, 2011
Investment in non-performing loan portfolios |  |  |  |
Impaired Financing Receivable, Unpaid Principal Balance | $ 91,339 |  | $ 99,693 |
Discount on acquired loans | 48,507 |  | 62,524 |
Investments in distressed loans | 42,832 |  | 37,169 |
Summary of accretable yield and nonaccretable difference on investments in non-performing loans portfolios |  |  |  |
Certain Loans Acquired in Transfer Not Accounted for as Debt Securities, Acquired During Period, Contractually Required Payments Receivable at Acquisition | 0 |  |  | 52,524
Nonaccretable difference |  |  |  | (5,125)
Certain Loans Acquired in Transfer Not Accounted for as Debt Securities, Acquired During Period, Cash Flows Expected to be Collected at Acquisition |  |  |  | 47,399
Certain loans acquired in transfer not accouted for as debt security,acquisition date accret cash flow |  |  |  | (20,514)
Non-performing loans carrying amount |  |  |  | 26,885
Activity in accretable yield for investment in non-performing loan portfolios |  |  |  |
Begining balance | 17,196 | 42,326 |  |
Certain Loans Acquired in Transfer Not Accounted for as a Debt Security, Accret Dff, at acquistion | 0 | 20,514 |  |
Certain Loans Acquired in Transfer Not Accounted for as Debt Securities, Accretable Yield, Disposals of Loans | 2,387 | 1,768 |  |
Accretions | (1,403) | (3,228) |  |
Ending balance | 13,406 | 57,844 |  |
Schedule of changes in real estate owned [Roll Forward] |  |  |  |
Real Estate Owned - total beginning of period | 58,353 | 5,939 |  |
Real Estate Owned Additions | 11,040 | 1,164 |  |
Real Estate Owned, Sales | (439) | (615) |  |
Real Estate Owned, Impairments | (15) |  |  |
Real Estate Held And Used Depreciation | (175) |  |  |
Real Estate Owned - total end of period | $ 68,764 | $ 6,488 |  |

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- Definition The aggregate excess of a loan's cash flows expected to be collected over the investor's initial investment in the loan. This relates to loans not accounted for as debt securities, with evidence of deterioration of credit quality since origination that were acquired by completion of a transfer for which it is probable, at acquisition, that the investor will be unable to collect all contractually required payments receivable. + References Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef -Publisher FASB -Name Accounting Standards Codification -Topic 310 -SubTopic 30 -Section 15 -Paragraph 2 -URI http://asc.fasb.org/extlink&oid=7514592&loc=d3e13503-111538 Reference 2: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef -Publisher FASB -Name Accounting Standards Codification -Topic 310 -SubTopic 30 -Section 50 -Paragraph 2 -Subparagraph (a)(2) -URI http://asc.fasb.org/extlink&oid=6379141&loc=d3e15032-111544 Reference 3: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef -Publisher AICPA -Name Statement of Position (SOP) -Number 03-3 -Paragraph 16 -Subparagraph a(2) -LegacyDoc This reference is SUPERSEDED by the Accounting Standards Codification effective for interim and annual periods ending after September 15, 2009. This reference is included to help users transition from the previous accounting hierarchy and will be removed from future versions of this taxonomy. + Details
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