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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 Gibraltar) (Details 5) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified | Jul. 31, 2013 | Oct. 31, 2012
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Carrying value and estimated fair value of distressed loans |  |
Investments in distressed loans | $ 42,500 | $ 37,169
Investment in distressed loans, fair value | $ 53,358 | $ 38,109

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