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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 loan UPB vs FV) (Details 1) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified | Jul. 31, 2013 | Oct. 31, 2012
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Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale |  |
Aggregate unpaid principal balance | $ 73,489 | $ 84,986
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net | 72,163 | 86,386
Excess | (1,326) | 1,400
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] |  |
Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale |  |
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net | $ 72,163 | $ 86,386

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