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Investments in Distressed Loans and Foreclosed Real Estate (Details) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified | 3 Months Ended | 9 Months Ended |  |
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Jul. 31, 2013 | Jul. 31, 2012 | Jul. 31, 2013 | Jul. 31, 2012 | Oct. 31, 2012 | Dec. 28, 2011
Investment in non-performing loan portfolios |  |  |  |  |  |
Impaired Financing Receivable, Unpaid Principal Balance | $ 88,890 |  | $ 88,890 |  | $ 99,693 |
Discount on acquired loans | 46,390 |  | 46,390 |  | 62,524 |
Investments in distressed loans | 42,500 |  | 42,500 |  | 37,169 |
Summary of accretable yield and nonaccretable difference on investments in non-performing loans portfolios |  |  |  |  |  |
Certain Loans Acquired in Transfer Not Accounted for as Debt Securities, Acquired During Period, Contractually Required Payments Receivable at Acquisition | 0 |  | 0 |  |  | 58,234
Nonaccretable difference |  |  |  |  |  | (8,235)
Certain Loans Acquired in Transfer Not Accounted for as Debt Securities, Acquired During Period, Cash Flows Expected to be Collected at Acquisition |  |  |  |  |  | 49,999
Certain loans acquired in transfer not accouted for as debt security,acquisition date accret cash flow |  |  |  |  |  | (20,514)
Non-performing loans carrying amount |  |  |  |  |  | 29,485
Activity in accretable yield for investment in non-performing loan portfolios |  |  |  |  |  |
Begining balance | 11,229 | 49,256 | 17,196 | 42,326 |  |
Certain Loans Acquired in Transfer Not Accounted for as a Debt Security, Accret Dff, at acquistion |  |  |  | 20,514 |  |
Additions | 541 | 1,297 | 706 | 4,221 |  |
Certain Loans Acquired in Transfer Not Accounted for as Debt Securities, Accretable Yield, Disposals of Loans | 2,418 | 14,141 | 6,027 | 24,090 |  |
Accretions | (987) | (2,655) | (3,510) | (9,214) |  |
Ending balance | 8,365 | 33,757 | 8,365 | 33,757 |  |
Schedule of changes in real estate owned [Roll Forward] |  |  |  |  |  |
Real Estate Owned - total beginning of period | 71,458 | 18,108 | 58,353 | 5,939 |  |
Real Estate Owned Additions | 5,855 | 20,861 | 20,172 | 33,663 |  |
Real Estate Owned, Sales | 3,801 | 731 | (4,713) | (1,346) |  |
Real Estate Owned, Impairments | 490 | 126 | (505) | (126) |  |
Real Estate Held And Used Depreciation | (110) | (120) | (395) | (138) |  |
Real Estate Owned - total end of period | $ 72,912 | $ 37,992 | $ 72,912 | $ 37,992 |  |

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