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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 loan UPB vs FV) (Details 1) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified | Oct. 31, 2014 | Oct. 31, 2013
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Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale |  |
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net | $ 101,944 us-gaap_MortgageLoansOnRealEstateCommercialAndConsumerNet | $ 113,517 us-gaap_MortgageLoansOnRealEstateCommercialAndConsumerNet
Fair Value, Measurements, Recurring [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Assets Held-for-sale [Member] | Residential Mortgage [Member] |  |
Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale |  |
Loans Receivable Held-for-sale, Amount | 100,463 us-gaap_LoansReceivableHeldForSaleAmount / us-gaap_FairValueByFairValueHierarchyLevelAxis = us-gaap_FairValueInputsLevel2Member / us-gaap_FairValueByMeasurementFrequencyAxis = us-gaap_FairValueMeasurementsRecurringMember / us-gaap_FinancialInstrumentAxis = us-gaap_AssetsHeldForSaleMember / us-gaap_FinancingReceivableRecordedInvestmentByClassOfFinancingReceivableAxis = us-gaap_ResidentialMortgageMember | 111,896 us-gaap_LoansReceivableHeldForSaleAmount / us-gaap_FairValueByFairValueHierarchyLevelAxis = us-gaap_FairValueInputsLevel2Member / us-gaap_FairValueByMeasurementFrequencyAxis = us-gaap_FairValueMeasurementsRecurringMember / us-gaap_FinancialInstrumentAxis = us-gaap_AssetsHeldForSaleMember / us-gaap_FinancingReceivableRecordedInvestmentByClassOfFinancingReceivableAxis = us-gaap_ResidentialMortgageMember
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net | 101,944 us-gaap_MortgageLoansOnRealEstateCommercialAndConsumerNet / us-gaap_FairValueByFairValueHierarchyLevelAxis = us-gaap_FairValueInputsLevel2Member / us-gaap_FairValueByMeasurementFrequencyAxis = us-gaap_FairValueMeasurementsRecurringMember / us-gaap_FinancialInstrumentAxis = us-gaap_AssetsHeldForSaleMember / us-gaap_FinancingReceivableRecordedInvestmentByClassOfFinancingReceivableAxis = us-gaap_ResidentialMortgageMember | 113,517 us-gaap_MortgageLoansOnRealEstateCommercialAndConsumerNet / us-gaap_FairValueByFairValueHierarchyLevelAxis = us-gaap_FairValueInputsLevel2Member / us-gaap_FairValueByMeasurementFrequencyAxis = us-gaap_FairValueMeasurementsRecurringMember / us-gaap_FinancialInstrumentAxis = us-gaap_AssetsHeldForSaleMember / us-gaap_FinancingReceivableRecordedInvestmentByClassOfFinancingReceivableAxis = us-gaap_ResidentialMortgageMember
Fair Value, Option, Aggregate Differences, Loans and Long-term Receivables | $ 1,481 us-gaap_FairValueOptionAggregateDifferencesLoansAndLongTermReceivables / us-gaap_FairValueByFairValueHierarchyLevelAxis = us-gaap_FairValueInputsLevel2Member / us-gaap_FairValueByMeasurementFrequencyAxis = us-gaap_FairValueMeasurementsRecurringMember / us-gaap_FinancialInstrumentAxis = us-gaap_AssetsHeldForSaleMember / us-gaap_FinancingReceivableRecordedInvestmentByClassOfFinancingReceivableAxis = us-gaap_ResidentialMortgageMember | $ 1,621 us-gaap_FairValueOptionAggregateDifferencesLoansAndLongTermReceivables / us-gaap_FairValueByFairValueHierarchyLevelAxis = us-gaap_FairValueInputsLevel2Member / us-gaap_FairValueByMeasurementFrequencyAxis = us-gaap_FairValueMeasurementsRecurringMember / us-gaap_FinancialInstrumentAxis = us-gaap_AssetsHeldForSaleMember / us-gaap_FinancingReceivableRecordedInvestmentByClassOfFinancingReceivableAxis = us-gaap_ResidentialMortgageMember

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- Definition This item represents the difference between the aggregate fair value and the aggregate unpaid principal balance of loans and long-term receivables (other than securities categorized as trading, available-for-sale or held-to-maturity) that have contractual principal amounts and for which the fair value option has been elected. + References Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef -Publisher FASB -Name Accounting Standards Codification -Topic 825 -SubTopic 10 -Section 50 -Paragraph 28 -Subparagraph (d)(1) -URI http://asc.fasb.org/extlink&oid=6957238&loc=d3e14064-108612 + Details
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- Definition The face amount of loans that will be sold to other entities. + References Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef -Publisher FASB -Name Accounting Standards Codification -Topic 310 -SubTopic 10 -Section 45 -Paragraph 2 -URI http://asc.fasb.org/extlink&oid=28367877&loc=d3e4428-111522 + Details
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- Definition The balance represents the amount of loans that are secured by real estate mortgages, offset by the reserve to cover probable credit losses on the loan portfolio. + References Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef -Publisher FASB -Name Accounting Standards Codification -Topic 944 -SubTopic 210 -Section S99 -Paragraph 1 -Subparagraph (SX 210.7-03.1(c)) -URI http://asc.fasb.org/extlink&oid=6879938&loc=d3e572229-122910 Reference 2: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef -Publisher SEC -Name Regulation S-X (SX) -Number 210 -Section 03 -Paragraph 1 -Subparagraph c -Article 7 + Details
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