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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 inventory fv) (Details 3) $ in Thousands | 3 Months Ended | 12 Months Ended
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Oct. 31, 2017 USD ($) | Jul. 31, 2017 USD ($) | Apr. 30, 2017 USD ($) | Jan. 31, 2017 USD ($) | Oct. 31, 2016 USD ($) | Jul. 31, 2016 USD ($) | Apr. 30, 2016 USD ($) | Jan. 31, 2016 USD ($) | Oct. 31, 2015 USD ($) | Jul. 31, 2015 USD ($) | Apr. 30, 2015 USD ($) | Jan. 31, 2015 USD ($) | Oct. 31, 2017 USD ($) | Oct. 31, 2016 USD ($) | Oct. 31, 2015 USD ($)
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
Inventory impairments and write-offs |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | $ 14,794 | $ 13,807 | $ 35,709
Fair Value, Measurements, Nonrecurring [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 [Member] | Operating communities [Member] |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
Number of Operating Communities Tested | 51 | 53 | 46 | 57 | 59 | 51 | 41 | 43 | 44 | 40 | 52 | 58 |  |  |
Number of Communities impaired | 1 | 4 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 4 |  |  |
Fair Value Of Communities Net Of Impairment Charges | $ 6,982 | $ 5,965 | $ 25,092 | $ 8,372 | $ 1,126 | $ 11,714 | $ 10,103 | $ 1,713 | $ 8,726 | $ 13,527 | $ 16,235 | $ 24,968 | 6,982 | 1,126 | 8,726
Inventory impairments and write-offs | $ 1,500 | $ 1,360 | $ 2,935 | $ 4,000 | $ 415 | $ 1,250 | $ 6,100 | $ 600 | $ 4,300 | $ 6,000 | $ 11,100 | $ 900 | $ 9,795 | $ 8,365 | $ 22,300

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