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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 debt fv) (Details 4) - USD ($) $ in Thousands | Jul. 31, 2020 | Oct. 31, 2019
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Reported Value Measurement [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | $ 3,876,999 | $ 3,934,453
Reported Value Measurement [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Loans Payable [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 1,084,934 | 1,114,577
Reported Value Measurement [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Warehouse Agreement Borrowings [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 122,189 | 150,000
Reported Value Measurement [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 [Member] | Senior Notes [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 2,669,876 | 2,669,876
Estimate of Fair Value Measurement [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 4,085,954 | 4,085,083
Estimate of Fair Value Measurement [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Loans Payable [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 1,084,580 | 1,112,040
Estimate of Fair Value Measurement [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Warehouse Agreement Borrowings [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 122,189 | 150,000
Estimate of Fair Value Measurement [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 [Member] | Senior Notes [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | $ 2,879,185 | $ 2,823,043

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