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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 debt fv) (Details 3) - USD ($) $ in Thousands | Oct. 31, 2022 | Oct. 31, 2021
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Book value [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure | $ 3,335,906 | $ 3,571,410
Estimate fair value [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure | 3,152,011 | 3,746,992
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 [Member] | Book value [Member] | Senior Notes [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure | 2,000,000 | 2,409,856
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 [Member] | Estimate fair value [Member] | Senior Notes [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure | 1,822,255 | 2,577,818
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Book value [Member] | Loans Payable [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure | 1,187,043 | 1,014,042
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Book value [Member] | Warehouse Agreement Borrowings [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure | 148,863 | 147,512
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Estimate fair value [Member] | Loans Payable [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure | 1,180,893 | 1,021,662
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Estimate fair value [Member] | Warehouse Agreement Borrowings [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure | $ 148,863 | $ 147,512

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