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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 debt fv) (Details 2) - USD ($) $ in Thousands | Jul. 31, 2022 | Oct. 31, 2021
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Book value [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | $ 3,315,995 | $ 3,571,410
Book value [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Loans Payable [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 1,202,290 | 1,014,042
Book value [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Warehouse Agreement Borrowings [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 113,705 | 147,512
Book value [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 [Member] | Senior Notes [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 2,000,000 | 2,409,856
Estimate fair value [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 3,251,771 | 3,746,992
Estimate fair value [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Loans Payable [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 1,195,745 | 1,021,662
Estimate fair value [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Warehouse Agreement Borrowings [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | 113,705 | 147,512
Estimate fair value [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 [Member] | Senior Notes [Member] |  |
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items] |  |
Debt Instrument, Fair Value Disclosure | $ 1,942,321 | $ 2,577,818

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