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Retirement Plans Schedule of Amounts Expected to Amortize from AOCI to net income in the coming year (Details) - USD ($) $ in Millions | 12 Months Ended
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Sep. 30, 2024 | Sep. 30, 2023 | Sep. 30, 2022 | Sep. 30, 2021
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Defined Benefit Plan, Amortization of Gain (Loss) |  | $ (3.7) | $ (1.7) | $ (2.5)
Forecast [Member] |  |  |  |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Defined Benefit Plan, Amortization of Gain (Loss) | $ (4.6) |  |  |

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