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CORPORATE
PARTICIPANTS
Ryan
McGrath
Lambert,
Edwards & Assoc. - IR
Leigh
Abrams
Drew
Industries - President, CEO
Fred
Zinn
Drew
Industries - EVP, CFO
Jason
Lippert
Drew
Industries - Dir., CEO of Lippert Components
David
Webster
Drew
Industries - Dir., President and CEO of Kinro
CONFERENCE
CALL PARTICIPANTS
Kathryn
Thompson
Avondale
Partners - Analyst
John
Diffendal
BB&T
Capital Markets - Analyst
Scott
Stember
Sidoti
& Co. - Analyst
Ed
Aaron
RBC
Capital Markets - Analyst
Arnold
Brief
Goldsmith
& Harris - Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good
day,
ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the 2008 Drew Industries Inc. first-quarter
earnings conference call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only
mode. We will be conducting a question-and-answer session towards the end of
today's conference. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS). As a reminder, this conference
is
being recorded for replay purposes. I will now turn your call over to Mr. Ryan
McGrath with Lambert, Edwards & Assoc. Please proceed.
Ryan
McGrath -
Lambert, Edwards & Assoc. - IR
Thank
you. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Drew Industries' 2008 first-quarter
conference call. I'm Ryan McGrath with Lambert, Edwards & Assoc., Drew's
Investor Relations firm, and I have with me today members of Drew's management
team including Leigh Abrams, President, CEO and a Director of Drew; David
Webster, President and CEO of Kinro and a Director of Drew; Jason Lippert,
President and CEO of Lippert Components and a Director of Drew; and Fred Zinn,
Executive Vice President and CFO of Drew.
We
want
to take a few minutes to discuss our quarterly results. However, before we
do so
it is my responsibility to inform you that certain statements made in today's
conference call regarding Drew Industries and its operations may be considered
forward-looking statements under the securities laws. As a result I must caution
you that there a number of factors, many of which are beyond the Company's
control, which may cause actual results and events to differ materially than
those described in the forward-looking statements. These risk factors are
identified in our press releases and in our latest Form 10-K filed with the
SEC.
With that I'd like to turn the call over to Leigh Abrams. Leigh?
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
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Thank
you, Ryan. Good morning and welcome to all of you on this call and to all of
those listening on the Internet. It appears that 2008 is turning out to be
a
very challenging year for us. The turmoil in the real estate industry and the
mortgage markets and the focus on recession all have severely impacted consumer
confidence which was recently at the lowest level in the last five
years.
Generally
under such conditions purchases of discretionary big-ticket items such as RV
and
boats slow down. However, in spite of these conditions we are pleased with
our
first-quarter results. Although net income is down slightly from last year's
first quarter we continue to make progress.
Our
cash
position is strong and we recently announced an agreement in principle to
acquire Seating Technologies, a company in the RV industry with sales of $40
million that has a potential to generate significant growth in synergies when
combined with our existing operations. In addition, it will create an entire
new
product category for Drew. We expect to pay for the acquisition with existing
cash.
The
RV
industry spent much of 2007 reducing inventory levels. And then late in 2007,
just as dealers appeared satisfied with their inventory levels, talk of
recession intensified, retail traffic slowed and accordingly dealers were
compelled to reduce inventory levels even further. As a result RV shipments
of
travel trailers and fifth wheel RVs to dealers by our customers were down 8%
for
the 2008 first quarter, but down more than 14% for the month of March alone.
Shipments of motor homes in the quarter were down 25%.
RV
sales
represent about 78% of Drew's consolidated sales with more than 90% of such
sales being for travel trailers and fifth wheel RVs and just 3% being from
motor
homes with the balance to specialty trailers.
To
our
pleasant surprise, shipments of manufactured homes were actually up about 2%
in
January and February, but were then down 11% in March resulting in a decline
of
about 3% for the 2008 first quarter. This is certainly some improvement from
the
18% decline in 2007 and the nearly 75% decline since 1998.
On
the
bright side sales of single section manufactured homes were up 18% in the 2008
first quarter. This increase is apparently the result of traditional buyers
of
manufactured homes who in the past had temporarily turned to site built homes
financed by readily available subprime mortgages are now returning to buy
affordable manufactured homes.
However,
shipments of multisection homes where our product content for multisection
homes
is greater than single section homes, those were down 12% in the quarter
partially due to retirees still being unable or unwilling to sell their primary
residence and thus not being in the market to purchase a manufactured
home.
Continuing
evidence of this is the 43% decline in 2007 of sales of manufactured homes
in
the three major retirement states of California, Florida and Arizona. Shipments
of manufactured homes to these states in the 2008 first quarter were down 30%
despite easy comps to last year.
Another
positive note for the manufactured housing industry is the possibility of new
Title 1 legislation that will increase the amount that the FHA will be permitted
to guarantee a manufactured housing channel mortgage from less than $50,000
to
about $70,000. If this legislation is finally enacted it could represent a
good
boost for the manufactured housing industry.
The
remainder of 2008 remains a puzzle. My gut tells me that the RV total sales
will
be down more than 10% which conforms to the projection by the RVIA of a 13%
decline in shipments of travel trailer and fifth wheel RVs. My gut also tells
me
that this may be the first year that is not aided by hurricane-related housing
in a long time that we will see the manufactured housing industry report flat
to
slightly up shipments.
Despite
these not so optimistic projections I am confident that Drew will continue
to
show good results, although likely not equal to last year, because of our
long-standing strategy of new product introductions, market share growth,
strategic acquisitions and operational efficiencies.
It
is
usual for me at this point in my remarks to thank David and Jason for the
fantastic job that they do and to acknowledge the benefits of our top management
team for Drew. I do so again today, but also want to thank Fred
Zinn.
Before
I
ask Fred to discuss our financial results I again want to congratulate him
on
becoming Drew's President later this month. This is a well deserved promotion
for someone that I have the greatest confidence in. Fred is not only very smart
and very hard-working, but is also very practical and creative and knows how
to
get a job done. It is with great pleasure that I now ask Fred to make his
report.
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
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Thank
you, very much, Leigh. I really do appreciate your confidence and your kind
words. As most of you know, Leigh and I have worked together as a team for
many
years now, and I believe that we have the same perspective on Drew's strengths
and how to capitalize on those strengths to grow profitably. Those of you who
have met with Leigh and me know that we are both committed to helping Drew
continue the kind of outstanding performance our stockholders have come to
expect.
Further,
I'm extremely confident that Joe Giordano, who will be appointed Drew's CFO
at
our Board meeting later this month, is fully prepared for his new role. Joe
has
made my job much, much easier over the past five years that he's been the
corporate controller. He's had broad responsibility for financial reporting,
monitoring internal controls and cash management and he's played a key
leadership role in our corporate office. I know he's well versed for the
responsibilities of becoming CFO.
But
for
now I still need to fulfill my role as CFO, so I'll try and add a little color
to our first-quarter results. The key to our performance this quarter, and
to
our potential for the balance of the year, is that we've prepared for the
current economic and industry downturn through cost-cutting, facility
consolidations and improved production efficiencies that were accomplished
in
late 2006 and throughout 2007.
Cost
reductions to date added $1.4 million to first-quarter operating profit and
are
expected to add more than $4 million to operating profit for the full year.
As a
result of these efforts, which are continuing, we enter 2008 with an even
stronger balance sheet and more productive workforce which will allow us to
meet
the challenges and take advantage of the opportunities presented in the current
slowdown.
Our
first-quarter results were well described in the press release; however, since
so much has changed in our operations throughout 2007 it's worth making some
comparisons of our first-quarter results to the results for the fourth quarter
of 2007. Both the first quarter and fourth quarter are typically seasonally
slow
periods for us. Sales in Q1 increased $21 million compared to the fourth quarter
and segment operating profit increased $3.9 million or 18% of the increase
in
sales, that's a little less than the 20% incremental margin we typically use
as
an approximation.
As
usual
there were many pluses and minuses impacting our results this quarter, but
their
net impact on gross profit was not material this quarter. However, SG&A
costs increased about $1.9 million between the fourth quarter and the first
quarter. Higher incentive bonuses as a result of the higher profit levels
accounted for about $600,000 of the increase in SG&A.
As
most
of you know, we set aside about 20% of operating profit in excess of an
acquisition adjusted hurdle for incentive compensation. We believe that our
incentive compensation program has been a key factor in the Company's ability
to
outperform our industries over the years.
A
$250,000 increase in stock option expense this quarter also impacted SG&A.
In November 2007 we granted options to more than 125 employees which will be
expensed over the five-year vesting period. Total non-cash stock-based
compensation expense should aggregate about $3.7 million this year compared
to
$2.5 million in 2007.
Historically
we've granted options every other year, but to provide more timely incentives
to
employees, beginning in 2008 we'll grant options annually for about half the
value of the previous grants. The five-year vesting period of employee options
provides both long-term incentives and provides a means to retain key
managers.
We
also
experienced a modest increase in bad debt expense compared to the fourth
quarter, largely because of a reduction in this expense in the fourth quarter
of
2007. While our accounts receivable are currently being collected very timely
with only 20 days of sales outstanding, in this kind of economy this is a risk
area that we have to monitor very closely. We have extremely capable credit
managers that have been through business cycles of this type in the past and
we're confident in their ability to manage through this current credit
cycle.
The
remaining increase in SG&A equals a little more than 3% of the increase in
sales which approximates our variable selling and delivery costs. Looking to
the
future the balance of the year is likely to be difficult for the RV industry.
Further, our operating management has the task of dealing with significant
increases in the cost of steel and aluminum. If the costs of these raw materials
remain at these peak levels it will add between $60 million and $70 million
annually to our cost of sales.
While
we
have and will continue to make every effort to improve efficiencies and reduce
overhead costs, raw material cost increases of this magnitude require that
we
obtain significant price increases from our customers. Unfortunately these
cost
increases come at a challenging time with the downturn in both the economy
and
our industries. Further, our customers face significant price increases from
other suppliers as well.
As
in the
past we've done all that we can to defer price increases to customers for as
long as we could. For instance, by prebuying certain raw materials at lower
prices to the greatest extent possible. At this point it's too early to estimate
the timing and net impact of higher raw material costs and increased selling
prices. In the past we've been able to offset the impact of raw material cost
increases and we anticipate that we'll largely be able to do the same this
year,
although there could be a difference in the timing of the increases in costs
and
sales prices over the next several months.
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While
these are difficult challenges, we have the best operating management team
in
the industry and they've successfully dealt with similar conditions in the
past.
Leigh and I are confident that they will effectively deal with today's
challenges as well and we all remain highly motivated to ensure Drew's continued
success.
Strong
prepared companies like Drew often stand to gain in difficult times like these.
Drew has an extremely strong balance sheet and the resources needed to take
advantage of strategic acquisition and other profitable opportunities that
may
be presented in this difficult economic environment. Acquisitions have been
and
continue to be a key ingredient in Drew's profitable growth. Now I'll turn
it
back to Leigh.
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Thank
you, Fred. Again, congratulations. More than happy to take questions
now.
QUESTION
AND ANSWER
Operator
(OPERATOR
INSTRUCTIONS). Kathryn Thompson, Avondale Partners.
Kathryn
Thompson -
Avondale Partners - Analyst
Thanks.
First on your manufactured housing operating margins, in the previous quarter
they benefited from product eliminations and (inaudible) which has done a nice
job year-over-year with margin improvement in that segment again. Did you see
a
similar impact in the first quarter and to what do you attribute the overall
year-over-year improvement in margins in that segment?
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
Yes,
I
think it was largely, as we had mentioned in prior quarters, due to the dropping
of some of the lower margin business. I think we were able to improve some
margins in some other products. It was partly product mix. We have obviously
different margins in various different product categories. You put all three
of
those together and I think that's what helped this year -- on top of (multiple
speakers).
Kathryn
Thompson -
Avondale Partners - Analyst
In
the
previous quarter you said it had about a $1 million to $2 million impact. Would
it be similar in this quarter or would you say it was a bigger
impact?
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
A
$1
million to $2 million impact on what?
Kathryn
Thompson -
Avondale Partners - Analyst
Positive
impact in the previous quarter, just the whole product elimination, that was
just your own estimation.
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
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I
don't
remember making that estimate. I'm sure you're right, but I would say in that
order, maybe that's a little high.
Kathryn
Thompson -
Avondale Partners - Analyst
Okay,
okay. I assume that on the commodity pricing pressure -- and you'll have to
forgive me -- this has been a constant theme since 2004. But do you feel
incrementally that prices have been more severe in increases today versus say
February or March, when you last reported numbers?
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Price
increases have continued to go up. The biggest price increases are probably
coming April and May, but they've been going up all year, just about every
month. And again, I look back to '04 when price increases doubled and tripled.
And again David and Jason were very successful in doing what they had to do.
Jason, do you want to add anything to that? And I'm going to ask David the
same.
Jason
Lippert -
Drew Industries - Dir., CEO of Lippert Components
No,
I
think Kathryn said that the -- it's been steady since '04, and it is just one
of
those situations where we have to evaluate everything and do what we have done
in the past. I think we've had to do it twice or three times since then, and
it
is just another one of those times we have to evaluate everything and get back
out to the market and educate the customers.
Kathryn
Thompson -
Avondale Partners - Analyst
Do
you
think it will be more difficult this time around than in previous
cycles?
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
David,
do
you want to add anything?
David
Webster -
Drew Industries - Dir., President and CEO of Kinro
It
is
always difficult to go out to the industry with price increases, but the problem
-- you know, this is nothing new for us. We have had price increases for the
last 28 years, raw materials going up. It just so happens that we are in the
middle of a campaign trail that really doesn't need to last for two years,
and I
think it is having a tremendous effect on the economy. But yes, we will handle
it the same way we always handled it. It is a tough road out there.
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Thank
you, David.
Kathryn
Thompson -
Avondale Partners - Analyst
But
overall just from your perspective, Leigh, do you see this as incrementally
tougher today than it was?
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Well,
it
is always tough. David and Jason both said it is always tough to put through
price increases, particularly in a down economy, but we are confident they
will
do what they have to do.
Kathryn
Thompson -
Avondale Partners - Analyst
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Okay.
What is the potential -- your Seating Technology, I know that there are other
potential targets out there. What is the total potential market for that
particular new segment?
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Probably
$100 million, but, Jason, do you want to add to that?
Jason
Lippert -
Drew Industries - Dir., CEO of Lippert Components
What
was
the question?
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
What's
the total market for Seating Technologies? They have them for $40 million,
what
do you think the total furniture market is? I said $100 million and I think
that's the number that they've thrown out.
Jason
Lippert -
Drew Industries - Dir., CEO of Lippert Components
I'd
say
somewhere in the neighborhood of -- you consider all their different business
units probably $150 million, somewhere in there, (inaudible).
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
The
problem is you look firstly only at the total RV market where they supply right
now, but there are other markets that we would like to take them into so that
would expand that base.
Jason
Lippert -
Drew Industries - Dir., CEO of Lippert Components
Well,
between motor homes and mattresses and all the other design and decorator work
that they do, it's bigger than just the seating portion of it.
Kathryn
Thompson -
Avondale Partners - Analyst
Okay.
I
was just trying to get -- partially given a total market potential and I was
just trying to get a sense of that.
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Again,
if
we just narrowed it to the total RV it would be one number, and if we're
successful, and we don't know whether we will be or not in taking it to other
markets, it could be much larger.
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
There
is
a pretty big potential. They are just a regional company right now; they don't
do business in all parts of the country. They've got gaps in their customer
list, so I think there is a lot of potential.
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
But
more
important than that, first we have to close the acquisition. It's not closed
yet
and we hope to do that by the end of June.
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Kathryn
Thompson -
Avondale Partners - Analyst
Okay.
And
my final question. Any other, just in terms of modeling forward on SG&A, any
other items that we should keep in mind that are more recurring? For instance,
the option expense going forward for the remainder of the year?
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
Just
be
aware that of course we are impacted also by higher fuel costs, so our delivery
costs are up a little bit and our utility costs are up a little bit. They're
not
huge costs for us, but incrementally they do make an impact.
Kathryn
Thompson -
Avondale Partners - Analyst
All
right, great. Thank you so much.
Operator
John
Diffendal, BB&T Capital Markets.
John
Diffendal -
BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst
Good
morning. Kathryn covered most of it, but going back you mentioned the bad debt
expense, did you give a number on that relative to (multiple speakers) -- it
may
have washed out on my --?
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
No,
I
didn't give a number. It's just a few hundred thousand dollars. It was very
low
in the fourth quarter and fairly average this quarter.
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
What
happens during the year, we estimate bad debt accrual and then at the end of
the
year you have to true it up and this year it trued up pretty good.
John
Diffendal -
BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst
But
there
are no specific things that have started to emerge that are much different
than
what you had before?
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
No,
of
course in economies like this I'd love to be able to put aside some more
allowance for doubtful accounts, but we can't really do that because we collect
it so quickly.
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
By
the
time the auditors sign off we've collected our entire year end
balance.
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
Yes.
There are lots of accounts we're watching, no different than prior quarters
and
we keep monitoring them.
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John
Diffendal -
BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst
Right.
But I'm just wondering, you mentioned -- going back on the Seating Technology
acquisition, I wonder if -- and I guess the biggest sort of positive would
be
say stretching them into other markets and other customers. But I was wondering
if Jason might be able to give us a little bit of color on what they do, maybe
if it's better than other people or just in terms of the cost structures,
anything like that that's worth noting about them?
Jason
Lippert -
Drew Industries - Dir., CEO of Lippert Components
I
can
comment so much as to the fact that they're a lot like us with respect to
customer service. These guys take care of their customers from a day-to-day
standpoint, long-term standpoint. They're very responsive, they're very
creative. They just do a good overall job with their customers in building
relationships. And their people are strong and I think that our two companies
are very similar from that standpoint.
I
would
like to think that we've got the strongest team in their marketplace there
and
we just, with our distribution channels, I think we've got an awesome
opportunity to really realize some synergies and gain even more market share
than what they've been gaining over the last 12 months themselves.
John
Diffendal -
BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst
To
move
outside the regions would it imply that you would have to have factories opened
in some of these other areas or can they serve most of what they have out of
the
base they already currently have?
Jason
Lippert -
Drew Industries - Dir., CEO of Lippert Components
Well,
it's kind bulky, a lot of the product is kind of bulky type product that you
don't want to ship long distance. So you kind of have to be in the regions
of
the manufacturing and we've got plenty of capacity in the Northwest and the
Southwest to expand their product lines out there, it's just a matter of timing,
doing it at the right time and approaching the customers and all that
stuff.
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Again,
I
emphasize they still have to close the transaction which will be (multiple
speakers).
John
Diffendal -
BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst
I
understand. And just lastly, I think in earlier conversations -- I know you
all
have been doing some prebuying of steel and that most of that is sort of gone
by
now. So the steel price increases I guess you're pushing through basically
right
now. And I know you implied that it's a constant sort of thing, but your
customer -- I mean give us a little more color in terms of -- is that process
basically done now or is it later this month?
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
Don't
forget, John, the prices have been up monthly during this year, so it's kind
of
bleeding into our cost of sales with a couple of months lag. I know that's
Jason
and David have been out to some customers already to negotiate price
(inaudible), but we have more to go.
John
Diffendal -
BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst
That's
good. Thank you very much.
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John
(sic) Stember, Sidoti & Co.
Scott
Stember -
Sidoti & Co. - Analyst
Good
morning.
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
Hi
Scott,
how are you doing?
Scott
Stember -
Sidoti & Co. - Analyst
Regarding
the 4% increase that you mentioned in the press release through April, could
you
talk about how much, if any, price increases are embedded in that number or
is
that pretty much just a true number?
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
It's
a 4%
decrease.
Scott
Stember -
Sidoti & Co. - Analyst
Sorry,
yes.
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
There
is
very little in terms of price increases through that period. But you have to
remember, there was an extra shipping day, an extra business day in the month
of
April.
Scott
Stember -
Sidoti & Co. - Analyst
Okay.
And
obviously that included any acquisition activity that happened last
year?
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
Yes.
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
It
was
very small; I think it was $4 million.
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
Yes,
it
was $4 million of acquisition-related increases.
Scott
Stember -
Sidoti & Co. - Analyst
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Another
question about Seating Technology, I know the deal hasn't closed yet, but one
of
the other opportunities here that you guys have talked about is outside of
the
RV space and manufactured housing and maybe even in the marine boating industry.
Can you just maybe give me a little bit more granularity on that?
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Not
really at this point. First we're going to try to grow the RV segment. First
we
have to close it and then we have to grow the RV segment and then we'll see
where to go from there.
Scott
Stember -
Sidoti & Co. - Analyst
Okay.
As
far as cost-cutting goes, I know that you guys have gotten most of that out
of
the way, how would you clarify or classify what you have going forward that
you
can take out of the system?
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
Well,
just on what's already been done, this year 2008 we'll have reduced costs by
more than $4 million. And I know there are additional cuts that have been
planned recently, so it should be more than $4 million. We're late in the
ballgame; we're not going to eliminate another 19 facilities.
Jason
Lippert -
Drew Industries - Dir., CEO of Lippert Components
A
lot of
it just depends on what the industry does too.
Scott
Stember -
Sidoti & Co. - Analyst
Okay,
most of my other questions have been answered. Thanks.
Operator
Ed
Aaron,
RBC Capital Markets.
Ed
Aaron -
RBC Capital Markets - Analyst
Thanks,
good morning. Fred, congratulations.
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
Thank
you.
Ed
Aaron -
RBC Capital Markets - Analyst
On
the
promotion. Just a few questions for you. First, on the whole pricing issue
with
the commodity inflation, can you just remind us how your pricing contracts
are
structured and if they're similar or different depending on account in terms
of
like your ability to just add on surcharges on a monthly or quarterly
basis?
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
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We
generally don't have a lot of contracts and if we do have contracts they're
cancelable on a short-term notice. So we just operate as a partnership we hope
with our customers.
Ed
Aaron -
RBC Capital Markets - Analyst
So
kind
of a constant negotiation process you would say?
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Yes.
You
have to satisfy your customer and your customer has to help us to survive as
well. So it's a real partnership and that's the way we try to
operate.
Ed
Aaron -
RBC Capital Markets - Analyst
Okay,
thanks. The April sales number that you mentioned -- I know you don't really
talk about monthly sales for every single month, but it looks like maybe there
was a little bit of rate of change improvement relative to March. Is that a
fair
assumption?
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Well
again, you remember we have an extra day in April, so an extra day could add
--
could be a couple of percent so it may have been down 7 or 8% instead of 4%.
It's about the same; it's running about the same as it has been.
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
Yes,
it's
not significantly different.
Ed
Aaron -
RBC Capital Markets - Analyst
Okay.
And
when you talk about the cost reduction number, that kind of $4 million minimum
number that you threw out for this year, just to be clear that is a combination
of the cost that you've taken out of the system plus just the general efficiency
gains?
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
It
doesn't really include the efficiency gains. The efficiency gains do flow with
the sales of our business. So this quarter our sales are down and our
efficiencies are down a little bit. But the $4 million is just the facility
consolidations, the fixed costs are the facility consolidations and the staff
reductions.
Ed
Aaron -
RBC Capital Markets - Analyst
Okay.
And
then two last questions if I could. One, on the buyback, it didn't look like
there was any activity this quarter. Was that a matter of price or is it having
something to do with the acquisition that you ended up pursuing? And then
secondly, Fred, just in your new seat as President there, maybe you could talk
about any strategic initiatives that you're going to be working on there?
Thanks.
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
I'll
answer the first question; I'll let Fred answer the second. The first question,
the buyback, we've basically been in a blackout almost since the time we
announced it. First we were in a year-end blackout for 40 some odd days. And
then we were in the midst of negotiating Seating Technology so we're in a
blackout. And just about when we announced Seating Technology we were in the
year-end blackout.
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So
it's
been almost a nonstop blackout from beginning of December through today. And
as
you know, we constantly look at acquisitions. So we're extremely careful. But
as
soon as there's a real window when we're not looking at something we'll be
a
buyer.
Fred
Zinn -
Drew Industries - EVP, CFO
And
in
terms of your second question, I think if you look at our history we've got
a
pretty good track record. I don't anticipate that an awful lot will change.
I do
think that we've got a lot of room for growth. You look at our product now,
our
sales into the RV industry account for about 10% or 11% or there abouts of
typical travel trailer and fifth wheel. And I think we can grow that a lot
more
with acquisitions like Seating Technology or others that give us new platforms
to grow on. But I think you'll see us maintain the winning combination we've
had
in the past.
Ed
Aaron -
RBC Capital Markets - Analyst
Thanks,
guys.
Operator
(OPERATOR
INSTRUCTIONS). Arnold Brief, Goldsmith & Harris.
Arnold
Brief -
Goldsmith & Harris - Analyst
Two
questions. One, given the past experience, maybe you could discuss price points
and mortgage activity in the manufactured housing industry, maybe you could
discuss what you would expect the change in the mortgage provisions from $50,000
to $70,000. What could that mean assuming it's passed, what do you think the
impact would be on the industry, number one? And then number two, in this period
where people are -- margins are depressed, sales are depressed, what have you,
are acquisition opportunities becoming more available, has activity picked
up or
not?
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Well,
let's start with the first one. The $50,000 limit basically limited people
to
single section homes or to a very low in multi, but $70,000 would open up the
multisection market for FHA financing which could be a big number. I've heard
estimates of 5,000 to 10,000 additional homes, but first we have to pass that
law too. It's been passed by the Senate and by the House and it's been in
conference for quite a while. The President has since indicated that he would
sign it, but it's still not out of conference.
I
think
David Webster said it earlier; you're in an election year. It's very tough
to
get any business done in an election year. We're hoping that this doesn't just
get bogged down and does get passed. But it would be a boost for the
industry.
Secondarily,
yes, acquisition pipeline. We've said right now the retiree for instance is
not
selling his home, either because the can't find a buyer or because maybe he
thought he was going to get $300,000 for it last year and now he can only get
$250,000 for it, so he says I'm certainly not selling it. And I think you also
see that in the acquisition market where people say, well, my business was
worth
$10 million last year and we say, yes, but now it's worth only $6 million.
He
says, well fine, I'm not selling when it's $10 million.
But
despite that, the acquisition market is available. There maybe are actually
even
slightly more companies for sale right now than we've seen in the past. But
as
you know, we're a very tough acquirer, very patient, very tough and we wait
for
our price. We'll just have to wait and see what happens, but there is that
reluctance to sell at a lower price.
Arnold
Brief -
Goldsmith & Harris - Analyst
Okay.
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And
there
are no more questions at this time. I will turn it back to Leigh Abrams for
closing remarks.
Leigh
Abrams -
Drew Industries - President, CEO
Thank
you, J.D. Again, I appreciate everybody listening in and please feel free to
contact either Fred or myself. Have a good day.
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