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Non-controlling interests (Tables)
 9 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2014
Noncontrolling Interest [Abstract]  
Schedule of noncontrolling interests
Non-controlling interests as of September 30, 2014 and December 31, 2013 are as follows:
 
September 30, 2014
 
December 31, 2013
 
($ in thousands)
Catastrophe Fund
$
59,277

 
$
49,254

Catastrophe Fund Manager
(254
)
 
(236
)
Joint Venture - Third Point Advisors LLC share
20,302

 
69,717

 
$
79,325

 
$
118,735


Income (loss) attributable to non-controlling interests for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2014 and 2013 was:
 
For the three months ended
 
For the nine months ended
 
September 30,
2014
 
September 30,
2013
 
September 30,
2014
 
September 30,
2013
 
($ in thousands)
Catastrophe Fund
$
3,253

 
$
2,434

 
$
3,872

 
$
3,191

Catastrophe Fund Manager
72

 
(2
)
 
(18
)
 
(164
)
Joint Venture - Third Point Advisors LLC share
92

 
386

 
1,586

 
1,175

 
$
3,417

 
$
2,818

 
$
5,440

 
$
4,202