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Non-controlling interests - Income Attributable to Non-controlling Interests (Details) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	3 Months Ended		9 Months Ended
	Sep. 30, 2014	Sep. 30, 2013	Sep. 30, 2014	Sep. 30, 2013
Noncontrolling Interest [Line Items]
Income (loss) attributable to non-controlling interests	$ 3,417	$ 2,818	$ 5,440	$ 4,202
Catastrophe Fund
Noncontrolling Interest [Line Items]
Income (loss) attributable to non-controlling interests	3,253	2,434	3,872	3,191
Catastrophe Fund Manager
Noncontrolling Interest [Line Items]
Income (loss) attributable to non-controlling interests	72	(2)	(18)	(164)
Joint Venture - Third Point Advisors LLC share
Noncontrolling Interest [Line Items]
Income (loss) attributable to non-controlling interests	$ 92	$ 386	$ 1,586	$ 1,175

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- Definition

Amount of income (loss) from continuing operations attributable to the noncontrolling interest. Also defined as revenue less expenses and taxes from ongoing operations before extraordinary items but after deduction of those portions of income or loss from continuing operations that are allocable to noncontrolling interests.

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-Publisher FASB

-Name Accounting Standards Codification

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-SubTopic 10

-Section 45

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