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Non-controlling interests - Narrative (Details) (USD $)					9 Months Ended				9 Months Ended
	Jun. 15, 2012	Sep. 30, 2014 Third Point Reinsurance Opportunities Fund Ltd	Dec. 31, 2013 Third Point Reinsurance Opportunities Fund Ltd	Sep. 30, 2014 Hiscox Catastrophe Fund Manager	Sep. 30, 2014 Joint Venture - Third Point Advisors LLC share	Sep. 30, 2013 Joint Venture - Third Point Advisors LLC share	Sep. 30, 2014 Cayman Holdco	Dec. 31, 2013 Cayman Holdco	Sep. 30, 2014 Third Point Hellenic Recovery US Feeder Fund, L.P.	Dec. 31, 2013 Third Point Hellenic Recovery US Feeder Fund, L.P.
Noncontrolling Interest [Line Items]
Estimated fair value of investment		$ 58,600,000	$ 54,800,000				$ 66,800,000	$ 29,300,000	$ 6,800,000	$ 5,300,000
Ownership percentage		49.90%	53.00%				10.50%	10.00%	2.00%	2.00%
Ownership percentage	85.00%			15.00%
Ownership percentage of nonparticipating shares		100.00%
Ownership percentage of participating shares		100.00%
Distributions					51,000,000	35,100,000
Committed capital									11,400,000
Committed capital, amount called									1,600,000
Committed capital, amount distributed									$ 700,000

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