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Management, performance and founders fees (Details) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified | 3 Months Ended | 9 Months Ended | 12 Months Ended
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Sep. 30, 2014 | Sep. 30, 2013 | Sep. 30, 2014 | Sep. 30, 2013 | Dec. 31, 2013 | Dec. 31, 2012
Third Point Advisors LLC |  |  |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |  |  |
Annual investment performance fee | 20.00%tpre_AnnualPerformanceFee / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_CoVenturerMember |  | 20.00%tpre_AnnualPerformanceFee / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_CoVenturerMember |  | 20.00%tpre_AnnualPerformanceFee / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_CoVenturerMember |
TP LLC and Various Third Point Re Founders |  |  |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |  |  |
Annual investment management fee | 2.00%tpre_AnnualInvestmentManagementFee / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = tpre_CoventureandManagementMember |  | 2.00%tpre_AnnualInvestmentManagementFee / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = tpre_CoventureandManagementMember |  | 2.00%tpre_AnnualInvestmentManagementFee / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = tpre_CoventureandManagementMember |
Performance fees due under the Investment Agreement |  |  |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |  |  |
Non-controlling interests related to the performance fee payable to Third Point Advisors LLC |  |  |  |  | $ 62,996 tpre_NoncontrollingInterestPerformanceFeePayable / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionAxis = tpre_PerformanceFeesunderInvestmentAgreementMember | $ 33,900 tpre_NoncontrollingInterestPerformanceFeePayable / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionAxis = tpre_PerformanceFeesunderInvestmentAgreementMember
Net investment income |  |  |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |  |  |
Investment fee expenses | 8,440 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember | 19,558 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember | 46,630 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember | 57,750 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember | 87,333 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember | 50,211 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember
Net investment income | Third Point LLC |  |  |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |  |  |
Investment fee expenses | 1,290 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_LimitedLiabilityCompanyMember | 978 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_LimitedLiabilityCompanyMember | 3,718 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_LimitedLiabilityCompanyMember | 2,497 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_LimitedLiabilityCompanyMember | 3,651 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_LimitedLiabilityCompanyMember | 2,444 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_LimitedLiabilityCompanyMember
Net investment income | Founders |  |  |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |  |  |
Investment fee expenses | 7,315 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = tpre_FoundersMember | 5,545 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = tpre_FoundersMember | 21,075 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = tpre_FoundersMember | 14,149 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = tpre_FoundersMember | 20,686 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = tpre_FoundersMember | 13,854 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = tpre_FoundersMember
Net investment income | Third Point Advisors LLC |  |  |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |  |  |
Investment fee expenses | (165)us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_CoVenturerMember | 13,035 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_CoVenturerMember |  | 41,104 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_CoVenturerMember |  | 33,913 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_CoVenturerMember
Net investment income | Performance fees due under the Investment Agreement | Third Point Advisors LLC |  |  |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |  |  |
Investment fee expenses |  |  | $ 21,837 us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionExpensesFromTransactionsWithRelatedParty / us-gaap_IncomeStatementLocationAxis = us-gaap_InvestmentIncomeMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionAxis = tpre_PerformanceFeesunderInvestmentAgreementMember / us-gaap_RelatedPartyTransactionsByRelatedPartyAxis = us-gaap_CoVenturerMember |  |  |

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