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Management, performance and founders fees (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands | 12 Months Ended |
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Dec. 31, 2019 | Dec. 31, 2018 | Dec. 31, 2017 | Aug. 31, 2018
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Investment fee expenses | $ 0 | $ 29,845 | $ 130,711 |
Affiliate costs, gross of TP fund fees | 19,556 | 37,221 | 130,711 |
Management and performance fees |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Investment fee expenses | 0 | 29,845 | 130,711 |
Third Point LLC |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Annual Investment Management Fee |  |  |  | 1.50%
Third Point LLC | Management and performance fees |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Investment fee expenses | $ 0 | $ 25,797 | 36,733 |
TP Fund |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Annual investment performance fee | 20.00% |  |  |
Annual Investment Management Fee | 1.25% | 1.50% |  |
Investment fee expenses | $ 67,026 | $ 7,376 | 0 |
Third Point Advisors LLC |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Annual investment performance fee |  |  |  | 20.00%
Third Point Advisors LLC [Member] | Management and performance fees |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Investment fee expenses | 0 | 4,048 | 93,978 |
Performance fees - loss carryforward utilized |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Investment fee expenses | 47,470 | 0 |  |
Performance fees - loss carryforward utilized | Management and performance fees |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Investment fee expenses |  |  | $ 0 |
Third Point Bermuda [Member] |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Loss Recovery Account Forfeitures | 1,300 |  |  |
Loss Recovery Account | 0 | 46,800 |  |
Third Point USA [Member] |  |  |  |
Related Party Transaction [Line Items] |  |  |  |
Loss Recovery Account Forfeitures | 1,300 |  |  |
Loss Recovery Account | $ 500 | $ 3,800 |  |

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