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Bank segment (Details 2) (USD $)
In Thousands, unless otherwise specified
 3 Months Ended 9 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2014
Sep. 30, 2013
Sep. 30, 2014
Sep. 30, 2013
Net income $ 48,286 $ 48,707 $ 136,580 $ 123,920
Net unrealized gains (losses) on securities:        
Net unrealized gains (losses) on securities arising during the period, net of (taxes) benefits, of $1,049 and ($689) for the three months ended September 30, 2013 and 2012 and $7,081 and ($1,261) for the nine months ended September 30, 2013 and 2012, respectively (1,657) (1,589) 3,406 (10,724)
Net unrealized gains (losses) on securities arising during the period, (taxes) benefits 1,094 1,049 (2,249) 7,081
Less: reclassification adjustment for net realized gains, included in net income, net of taxes, of nil for the three months ended September 30, 2013 and 2012 and $488 and $53 for the nine months ended September 30, 2013 and 2012, respectively 0 0 (1,715) (738)
Less: reclassification adjustment for net realized gains included in net income, taxes 0 0 1,132 488
Retirement benefit plans:        
Less: amortization of transition obligation, prior service credit and net losses recognized during the period in net periodic benefit cost, net of tax benefits of $1,626, $3,295, $4,878 and $9,885 for the respective periods 2,829 5,789 8,515 17,490
Less: amortization of net loss, prior service gain and transition obligation included in net periodic benefit cost, tax benefits (1,900) (3,697) (5,438) (11,173)
Other comprehensive income (loss), net of taxes (1,311) (897) 2,756 (9,263)
Comprehensive income 46,504 47,339 137,919 113,240
American Savings Bank (ASB)
        
Net income 13,260 15,276 39,475 45,350
Net unrealized gains (losses) on securities:        
Net unrealized gains (losses) on securities arising during the period, net of (taxes) benefits, of $1,049 and ($689) for the three months ended September 30, 2013 and 2012 and $7,081 and ($1,261) for the nine months ended September 30, 2013 and 2012, respectively (1,657) (1,589) 3,406 (10,724)
Net unrealized gains (losses) on securities arising during the period, (taxes) benefits (1,094) (1,049) 2,249 (7,081)
Less: reclassification adjustment for net realized gains, included in net income, net of taxes, of nil for the three months ended September 30, 2013 and 2012 and $488 and $53 for the nine months ended September 30, 2013 and 2012, respectively 0 0 (1,715) (738)
Less: reclassification adjustment for net realized gains included in net income, taxes 0 0 1,132 488
Retirement benefit plans:        
Less: amortization of transition obligation, prior service credit and net losses recognized during the period in net periodic benefit cost, net of tax benefits of $1,626, $3,295, $4,878 and $9,885 for the respective periods 208 420 642 3,043
Less: amortization of net loss, prior service gain and transition obligation included in net periodic benefit cost, tax benefits 138 278 (424) (2,010)
Other comprehensive income (loss), net of taxes (1,449) (1,169) 2,333 (8,419)
Comprehensive income $ 11,811 $ 14,107 $ 41,808 $ 36,931