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Investments (Details 7) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified | 3 Months Ended | 9 Months Ended
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Jul. 01, 2012 | Jul. 03, 2011 | Jul. 01, 2012 | Jul. 03, 2011
Net Investment Gains (Losses) |  |  |  |
Net realized gains on fixed maturity available-for-sale securities | $ 37,895 | $ 15,137 | $ 172,188 | $ 15,137
Realized gains (losses) on equity securities | 417 | (105) | 783 | (105)
Net realized gains on securities | 38,312 | 15,032 | 172,971 | 15,032
Realized losses on certain derivative instruments | (26,295) | (3,258) | (32,001) | (3,258)
Unrealized gains (losses) on certain derivative instruments | (24,839) | (10,546) | 114,649 | (10,546)
Change in fair value of derivatives | (51,134) | (13,804) | 82,648 | (13,804)
Realized losses on other invested assets | (84) |  | (1,003) |
Net investment gains (losses) | $ (12,906) | $ 1,228 | $ 254,616 | $ 1,228

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