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Stock Compensation Stock compensation - Schedule of Incentive Plan Activity (Details) - $ / shares
shares in Thousands
9 Months Ended
Jun. 30, 2017
Sep. 30, 2016
HGI [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Grants in Period 343  
Granted $ 2,300,000  
Exercised/Released $ 29,800,000  
HGI [Member] | Employee Stock Option [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Granted 318  
Granted $ 5.96  
Exercised/Released $ 1,900,000  
HGI [Member] | Restricted stock awards [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Nonvested, Number 168 1,975
Exercised / Released (1,832)  
Exercised/Released $ 12.69  
HGI [Member] | Time Based Restricted Stock Units [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Grants in Period 25  
Granted $ 15.71  
Exercised/Released 400,000  
HGI [Member] | Restricted stock units [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Options, Vested, Weighted Average Grant Date Fair Value $ 0  
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Nonvested, Number   42
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Nonvested, Weighted Average Grant Date Fair Value   $ 12.33
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Grants in Period 0  
Granted $ 0.00  
Stock Issued During Period, Shares, Restricted Stock Award, Gross 0  
Exercised / Released (42)  
Exercised/Released $ 12.33  
Spectrum Brands [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Granted $ 39,000,000  
Stock Issued During Period, Shares, Restricted Stock Award, Gross 293  
Exercised/Released $ 49,000,000  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Share-based Compensation Award, Tranche One [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Exercised/Released 100,000  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Share-based Compensation Award, Tranche Two [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Exercised/Released 12,900,000  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Share-based Compensation Award, Tranche Three [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Exercised/Released $ 36,000,000  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Employee Stock Option [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Granted 0  
Granted $ 0.00  
Exercised/Released 0  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Restricted stock awards [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Granted 133.15  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Restricted stock awards [Member] | Share-based Compensation Award, Tranche One [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Granted 140.38  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Restricted stock awards [Member] | Share-based Compensation Award, Tranche Two [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Granted 122.66  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Restricted stock awards [Member] | Share-based Compensation Award, Tranche Three [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Granted $ 122.43  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Time Based Restricted Stock Units [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Grants in Period 0  
Granted $ 0.00  
Exercised/Released 0  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Restricted stock units [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Options, Vested, Weighted Average Grant Date Fair Value $ 39,000,000  
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Nonvested, Number 763 577
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Nonvested, Weighted Average Grant Date Fair Value   $ 94.97
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Grants in Period 693  
Granted $ 127.02  
Stock Issued During Period, Shares, Restricted Stock Award, Gross 293  
Exercised / Released (499)  
Exercised/Released $ 109.03  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Performance-based and Time-based Shares [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Granted $ 122.53  
Stock Issued During Period, Shares, Restricted Stock Award, Gross 400  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Performance-based and Time-based Shares [Member] | Share-based Compensation Award, Tranche One [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Stock Issued During Period, Shares, Restricted Stock Award, Gross 1  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Performance-based and Time-based Shares [Member] | Share-based Compensation Award, Tranche Two [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Stock Issued During Period, Shares, Restricted Stock Award, Gross 105  
Spectrum Brands [Member] | Performance-based and Time-based Shares [Member] | Share-based Compensation Award, Tranche Three [Member]    
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]    
Stock Issued During Period, Shares, Restricted Stock Award, Gross 294