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Other assets and Intangibles - Intangibles (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands | 12 Months Ended
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Oct. 31, 2023 | Oct. 31, 2022 | Oct. 31, 2021
Finite-Lived and Infinite Intangible Assets |  |  |
Finite and indefinite lived intangible assets gross | $ 21,494 | $ 22,305 |
Accum. Amortization | (15,796) | (15,099) |
Intangibles, net | 5,698 | 7,206 |
Amortization expense | 1,500 | 1,600 | $ 1,600
Brand name intangibles |  |  |
Finite-Lived and Infinite Intangible Assets |  |  |
Gross carrying value and net book value | $ 275 | 275 |
Customer list/relationships |  |  |
Finite-Lived and Infinite Intangible Assets |  |  |
Weighted-Average Useful Life | 8 years |  |
Gross Carrying Value | $ 17,100 | 17,340 |
Accum. Amortization | (12,517) | (11,373) |
Net Book Value | $ 4,583 | 5,967 |
Trade names |  |  |
Finite-Lived and Infinite Intangible Assets |  |  |
Weighted-Average Useful Life | 8 years |  |
Gross Carrying Value | $ 3,949 | 4,060 |
Accum. Amortization | (3,109) | (3,100) |
Net Book Value | $ 840 | 960 |
Trade secrets/recipes |  |  |
Finite-Lived and Infinite Intangible Assets |  |  |
Weighted-Average Useful Life | 9 years |  |
Gross Carrying Value | $ 170 | 630 |
Accum. Amortization | $ (170) | (626) |
Net Book Value |  | $ 4 |

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