Other assets and Intangibles - Intangibles (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2023	Oct. 31, 2022	Oct. 31, 2021
Finite-Lived and Infinite Intangible Assets
Finite and indefinite lived intangible assets gross	$ 21,494	$ 22,305
Accum. Amortization	(15,796)	(15,099)
Intangibles, net	5,698	7,206
Amortization expense	1,500	1,600	$ 1,600
Brand name intangibles
Finite-Lived and Infinite Intangible Assets
Gross carrying value and net book value	$ 275	275
Customer list/relationships
Finite-Lived and Infinite Intangible Assets
Weighted-Average Useful Life	8 years
Gross Carrying Value	$ 17,100	17,340
Accum. Amortization	(12,517)	(11,373)
Net Book Value	$ 4,583	5,967
Trade names
Finite-Lived and Infinite Intangible Assets
Weighted-Average Useful Life	8 years
Gross Carrying Value	$ 3,949	4,060
Accum. Amortization	(3,109)	(3,100)
Net Book Value	$ 840	960
Trade secrets/recipes
Finite-Lived and Infinite Intangible Assets
Weighted-Average Useful Life	9 years
Gross Carrying Value	$ 170	630
Accum. Amortization	$ (170)	(626)
Net Book Value		$ 4

The aggregate expense charged against earnings to allocate the cost of intangible assets (nonphysical assets not used in production) in a systematic and rational manner to the periods expected to benefit from such assets. As a noncash expense, this element is added back to net income when calculating cash provided by or used in operations using the indirect method.

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