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Retirement and Other Benefit Plans - Net Periodic Post-retirement Healthcare (benefit) Cost (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	12 Months Ended
	Nov. 03, 2017	Oct. 28, 2016
Service cost	$ 131	$ 130
Interest cost	2,196	2,448
Net periodic postretirement healthcare (benefit)	1,838	1,634
Post-retirement Healthcare Benefits [Member]
Service cost	13	13
Interest cost	17	28
Amortization of prior service cost	(132)	(132)
Amortization of actuarial gain	(58)	(106)
Net periodic postretirement healthcare (benefit)	$ (160)	$ (197)

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Amount of gain (loss) recognized in net periodic benefit (cost) credit of defined benefit plan.

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