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ACCESSION NUMBER:		0001171843-13-003216
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	8-K
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		2
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20130801
ITEM INFORMATION:		Results of Operations and Financial Condition
ITEM INFORMATION:		Regulation FD Disclosure
ITEM INFORMATION:		Financial Statements and Exhibits
FILED AS OF DATE:		20130806
DATE AS OF CHANGE:		20130806

FILER:

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			HARVARD BIOSCIENCE INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001123494
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	LABORATORY ANALYTICAL INSTRUMENTS [3826]
		IRS NUMBER:				043306140
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			DE
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		8-K
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	001-33957
		FILM NUMBER:		131014062

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		84 OCTOBER HILL RD
		CITY:			HOLLISTON
		STATE:			MA
		ZIP:			01746
		BUSINESS PHONE:		5088938999

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		STREET 1:		84 OCTOBER HILL ROAD
		CITY:			HOLLISTON
		STATE:			MA
		ZIP:			01746
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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thank you, Charlotte, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us to discuss our results for the second quarter of 2013. David Green, our President and Interim CEO, is also on the call with me today. After the Safe Harbor statement, I&#8217;ll turn the call over to David, who will present comments on the company&#8217;s second quarter business performance. Following those comments, we&#8217;ll open the call for any questions.</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I&#8217;ll now turn the call over to David. David?</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi guys, thanks for taking the question.</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi.</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Can you just talk a little bit more about the situation with GE Healthcare? I guess why are they ordering fewer products, are they just kind of exiting the business, or how should we think about that in the context of the rest of the business and ensuring that something like this doesn&#8217;t happen with the other 96% of sales? Thanks</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We have no indication that GE is exiting the business of either the product lines that we currently sell to them, which is spectrophotometer product line and the electrophoresis product line. What GE has told is that, their inventory levels, both their own inventory levels plus the inventory levels at one of their major customers, were high and so, this is more of an inventory stocking issue rather than an end user demand issue. So I think those circumstances are really unique to our relationship with GE and really don&#8217;t apply to the other 96% of our revenue.</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Does this answer your question, Prasad?</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Yeah, that&#8217;s great. And then maybe sort of unrelated follow-up, can you give us any more clarity on the timing of the spin-off, and I know you are just waiting for the SEC to approve the Form 10, but just sort of, do you have a rough timeline for when that might be?</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Yes, we are dependent on the SEC&#8217;s review and obviously we can&#8217;t predict that, but if the previous process for the S-1 is any guide, we had relatively light comments from the SEC and we were able to get through those fairly expeditiously. So I think if everything goes smoothly, we might be in a place to set the record date for the distribution probably towards the end of September, which would lead to a final distribution and complete separation of the Company sometime in the middle of October.</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Okay, perfect. And then just lastly maybe, you could comment on the pipeline for the LSRT business, and kind of acquisitions. What are you seeing now, especially in light of the environment with NIH funding. Have there been more people that are sort of up for sale, given maybe some of these mom-and-pop guys are struggling or how do you really think about that, thanks.</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">You are probably familiar with the types of businesses we have been acquiring over the last 15 or 16 years. They tend to be relatively small businesses. They are often owned by the founder. They are often family businesses, and as such they don't really trade in a liquid market for acquisitions. So what we found over the years is that the prices we&#8217;ve paid for those acquisitions have been fairly consistent at around six times operating profit throughout the booms and the busts. What&#8217;s happening in the public markets really tends to be very distant from what's happening in the market for private company acquisitions. So we found there really doesn&#8217;t tend to be much impact either during the boom time or the bust times. The one thing that it does tend to take place is during periods of greater uncertainty, like now in terms of NIH funding, then companies that might have been outside of our price range might come into our price range, and we did see that, for instance when we acquired Denville back in 2009, that was obviously after the financial crisis hit, and I think that if that business had been sold during the better times 2006, 2007, probably would have gone for a [higher] EBITDA multiple to what we paid for it. But other than that, I don't really see much change. I don't really anticipate any change to the number or the pricing of acquisition candidates because of sequestration.</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">And is it fair to say that you, I mean are you continuing to work on the acquisition pipeline before the spin-off of HART or has it been, you're at a standstill and you're not really evaluating things until after the spin-off and obviously you have increased capacity to do that once the losses from HART are gone, but just kind of curious if there should be sort of a ramp period after the spin or if they're a bunch of things that obviously you&#8217;ve been looking out for a while, but you just can&#8217;t proceed until after the spin-off?</font></div>

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<div style="TEXT-INDENT: 0pt; DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: 0pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pt" align="left"><font style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We do have a pipeline. We&#8217;ve continued to work the pipeline of candidates for acquisitions. The constraint on us in the last couple of years, it would have been more making U.S. acquisitions rather than making acquisitions in total. And so, if you look at the acquisitions we have made in the last couple of years, AHN and CMA, they&#8217;re both European companies. AHN is in Germany and CMA is in Sweden. So that part has not been particularly constrained, but the larger acquisitions that would require us to drawdown on the credit facility or U.S.-based acquisitions, we&#8217;ve not been able to pursue those as aggressively as we would have liked, and I think you will see us pick up the acquisition pipeline once the spin is completed. I also expect that the strategy will be implemented by a new CEO. I&#8217;m pretty sure that by then we&#8217;ll have a new CEO in place. So that&#8217;s really what I think will happen in the acquisition side.</font></div>

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