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Benefit Plans Contributions (Details) (USD $)
In Millions, unless otherwise specified
9 Months Ended
Jun. 30, 2013
Jun. 30, 2012
Other Pension Plans, Defined Benefit
   
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure    
Defined Benefit Plan, Contributions by Employer $ 0  
Other Post-retirement Benefits
   
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure    
Defined Benefit Plan, Contributions by Employer $ 34 $ 31