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Benefit Plans Projected Benefit Obligations and Accumulated Benefit Obligations in Exess of Plan Assets (Details) (USD $)
In Millions, unless otherwise specified
Sep. 30, 2014
Sep. 30, 2013
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure    
Projected benefit obligation $ 12,265 $ 11,471
Accumulated benefit obligation 12,039 11,216
Fair value of net plan assets $ 7,507 $ 7,221