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Benefit Plans Fair Value Measurements Using Significant Unobservable Inputs (Details) (USD $)
In Millions, unless otherwise specified
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2014
Sep. 30, 2013
Sep. 30, 2012
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets $ 7,600 [1],[2] $ 7,363  
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3
     
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 648 656 633
Net realized/unrealized gains and losses 50 45  
Purchases, sales, issuances, and settlements (53) (21)  
Transfers in and/or out of Level 3 $ (5) $ (1)  
[1] Excludes approximately $65 million in net payables associated with security purchases and sales and various other payables.
[2] Excludes a $3 million payable for collateral on loaned securities in connection with TVARS’s participation in securities lending programs.