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Benefit Plans Fair Value Measurements Using Significant Unobservable Inputs (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Millions
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2015
Sep. 30, 2014
Sep. 30, 2013
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]      
Fair value of gross plan assets [1] $ 6,964 [2] $ 7,600 [3]  
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]      
Fair value of gross plan assets 91 66 $ 42
Net realized/unrealized gains and losses (2) 3  
Purchases, sales, issuances, and settlements 33 26  
Transfers in and/or out of Level 3 $ (6) $ (5)  
[1] Excludes a $2 million payable for collateral on loaned securities in connection with TVARS’s participation in securities lending programs.
[2] Excludes approximately $130 million in net payables associated with security purchases and sales and various other payables.
[3] Excludes approximately $65 million in net payables associated with security purchases and sales and various other payables