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Benefit Plans Contributions (Details) - USD ($)
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2016
Sep. 30, 2015
Sep. 30, 2014
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Other postretirement benefit contributions   $ 44,000,000 $ 47,000,000
Supplemental Employee Retirement Plans, Defined Benefit      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Employer contributions   7,000,000 6,000,000
Other Post-retirement Benefits      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Employer contributions [1]   43,000,000 33,000,000
Pension Benefits      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Employer contributions [1]   282,000,000 256,000,000
Other Pension Plans, Defined Benefit      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Employer contributions   275,000,000 250,000,000
Minimum | Other Pension Plans, Defined Benefit      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Employer contributions   $ 215,000,000 $ 198,000,000
Scenario, Forecast [Member]      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Other postretirement benefit contributions $ 39,000,000    
Scenario, Forecast [Member] | Supplemental Employee Retirement Plans, Defined Benefit      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Employer contributions 6,000,000    
Scenario, Forecast [Member] | Other Pension Plans, Defined Benefit      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Employer contributions $ 275,000,000    
[1] Other Post-Retirement Benefits Employer contributions are reduced by federal reinsurance payments and provider discounts and rebates.