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Benefit Plans Fair Value Measurements Using Significant Unobservable Inputs (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Millions

12 Months Ended

Sep. 30, 2016

Sep. 30, 2015

Sep. 30, 2014

Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]

Fair value of gross plan assets

^[1]

$ 7,293

^[2]

$ 6,964

^[3]

Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3

Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]

Fair value of gross plan assets

97

91

$ 66

Net realized/unrealized gains

18

(2)

Purchases, sales, issuances, and settlements, net

(12)

33

Transfers in and/or out of Level 3

$ 0

$ (6)

[1]	Excludes a $3 million payable for collateral on loaned securities in connection with TVARS’s participation in securities lending programs.
[2]	Excludes approximately $129 million in net payables associated with security purchases and sales and various other payables.
[3]	Excludes approximately $130 million in net payables associated with security purchases and sales and various other payables

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- Definition

Assets, usually stocks, bonds, and other investments, that have been segregated and restricted (usually in a trust) to provide benefits, at their fair value as of the measurement date. Plan assets include amounts contributed by the employer (and by employees for a contributory plan) and amounts earned from investing the contributions, less benefits paid. This amount is not reduced by non-benefit liabilities.

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- Definition

The difference between fair value of plan assets at the end of the period and the fair value at the beginning of the period, adjusted for contributions and payments of benefits during the period, and after adjusting for taxes and other expenses, as applicable.

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Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef
-Publisher FASB
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Glossary Actual Return on Plan Assets (Component of Net Periodic Postretirement Benefit Cost)
-URI http://asc.fasb.org/extlink&oid=6504192

Reference 2: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef
-Publisher FASB
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Topic 715
-SubTopic 20
-Section 50
-Paragraph 1
-Subparagraph (b)(1)
-URI http://asc.fasb.org/extlink&oid=65897934&loc=d3e1928-114920

Reference 3: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef
-Publisher FASB
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Glossary Actual Return on Plan Assets (Component of Net Periodic Pension Cost)
-URI http://asc.fasb.org/extlink&oid=6504226

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Amount of increase (decrease) in plan assets from purchases, sales and settlement of plan obligations.

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Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef
-Publisher FASB
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Topic 715
-SubTopic 20
-Section 50
-Paragraph 1
-Subparagraph (d)(iv)(02)(B)
-URI http://asc.fasb.org/extlink&oid=65897934&loc=d3e1928-114920

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-Publisher FASB
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Topic 715
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Transfers in and out of Level 3. For example, transfers due to changes in the observability of significant inputs.

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-Name Accounting Standards Codification
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-SubTopic 20
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