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Benefit Plans Obligations and Funded Status (Details) - USD ($) | 12 Months Ended
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Sep. 30, 2018 | Sep. 30, 2017 | Sep. 30, 2016
Change in benefit obligation |  |  |  |
Actuarial loss (gain) |  | $ (3,000,000) |  |
Change in plan assets |  |  |  |
Employer contributions |  |  | $ 500,000,000 |
Defined Benefit Plan, Funded (Unfunded) Status of Plan [Abstract] |  |  |  |
Discount rate |  |  | 3.70% |
Amount related to change in payment elections |  | 46,000,000 |  |
Pension Benefits |  |  |  |
Change in benefit obligation |  |  |  |
Benefit obligation |  | 11,725,000,000 | $ 12,601,000,000 |
Defined Benefit Plan, Pension Plan with Projected Benefit Obligation in Excess of Plan Assets, Projected Benefit Obligation |  | 12,601,000,000 | 13,083,000,000 |
Service cost |  | 53,000,000 | 60,000,000 | $ 133,000,000
Interest cost |  | 473,000,000 | 464,000,000 | 564,000,000
Plan participants’ contributions |  | 7,000,000 | 9,000,000 |
Change in Plan Assets due to Collections | [1] | 0 | 0 |
Collections | [1] | 0 | 0 |
Actuarial loss (gain) |  | (658,000,000) | (286,000,000) |
Defined Benefit Plan, Benefit Obligation, Increase (Decrease) for Plan Amendment |  | 0 | 0 |
Net transfers from variable fund/401(k) plan |  | (26,000,000) | (12,000,000) |
Expenses paid |  | (6,000,000) | (5,000,000) |
Benefits paid |  | 719,000,000 | 712,000,000 |
Defined Benefit Plan, Pension Plan with Projected Benefit Obligation in Excess of Plan Assets, Plan Assets |  | 8,003,000,000 | 7,989,000,000 |
Change in plan assets |  |  |  |
Fair value of net plan assets |  | 7,989,000,000 | 7,989,000,000 |
Defined Benefit Plan, Plan with Accumulated Benefit Obligation in Excess of Plan Assets, Plan Assets |  |  | 7,145,000,000 |
Actual return on plan assets |  | 454,000,000 | 759,000,000 |
Employer contributions |  | 304,000,000 | 805,000,000 |
Defined Benefit Plan, Funded (Unfunded) Status of Plan [Abstract] |  |  |  |
Funded status |  | $ (3,722,000,000) | $ (4,612,000,000) |
Discount rate |  | 4.35% | 3.85% |
Amount of defined benefit plan actuarial gain (loss) from discount rate change |  | $ (676,000,000) | $ (3.85) | (3.65)
Increase (Decrease) in Obligation, Pension Benefits |  |  | 292,000,000 |
Amount of defined benefit plan actuarial gain (loss) from change in mortality assumption |  | (138,000,000) | $ (117,000,000) |
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used in Calculation, Description |  |  | 119 |
Amount related to change in payment elections |  | 110,000,000 |  |
Other Post-retirement Benefits |  |  |  |
Change in benefit obligation |  |  |  |
Benefit obligation |  | 428,000,000 | $ 494,000,000 |
Postconfirmation, Other Postretirement Obligations |  | 494,000,000 | 571,000,000 |
Service cost |  | 14,000,000 | 18,000,000 | 16,000,000
Interest cost |  | 19,000,000 | 21,000,000 | $ 29,000,000
Plan participants’ contributions |  | 0 | 0 |
Change in Plan Assets due to Collections | [1] | 25,000,000 | 47,000,000 |
Collections | [1] | 25,000,000 | 47,000,000 |
Actuarial loss (gain) |  | (28,000,000) | (80,000,000) |
Defined Benefit Plan, Actuarial Gain (Loss), Immediate Recognition as Component in Net Periodic Benefit (Cost) Credit |  | 46,000,000 |  |
Defined Benefit Plan, Benefit Obligation, Increase (Decrease) for Plan Amendment |  | (17,000,000) | 0 |
Net transfers from variable fund/401(k) plan |  | 0 | 0 |
Expenses paid |  | 0 | 0 |
Benefits paid |  | 61,000,000 | 83,000,000 |
Increase (Decrease) in Obligation, Other Postretirement Benefits |  | 17,000,000 |  |
Change in plan assets |  |  |  |
Fair value of net plan assets |  | 0 | 0 |
Actual return on plan assets |  | 0 | 0 |
Employer contributions | [2] | 36,000,000 | 36,000,000 |
Defined Benefit Plan, Funded (Unfunded) Status of Plan [Abstract] |  |  |  |
Funded status |  | $ (428,000,000) | $ (494,000,000) |
Discount rate |  | 4.40% | 3.95% |
Amount of defined benefit plan actuarial gain (loss) from updated capita claims costs and retiree contributions |  | $ (8,000,000) | $ (66,000,000) |
Amount of defined benefit plan actuarial gain (loss) from discount rate change |  | (4.40) | (18,000,000) |
Amount of defined benefit plan actuarial gain (loss) from change in mortality assumption |  | $ (6,000,000) | $ (6,000,000) |
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used in Calculation, Description |  | 23 | 3.95 |
[1] | Collections include retiree contributions as well as provider discounts and rebates.
[2] | Other Post-Retirement Benefits Employer contributions are reduced by provider discounts and rebates.

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