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Benefit Plans Fair Value Measurements Using Significant Unobservable Inputs (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Millions
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2018
Sep. 30, 2017
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Fair value of gross plan assets $ 8,423 $ 8,536
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Fair value of gross plan assets 88 97
Net realized/unrealized gains (4) 2
Purchases, sales, issuances, and settlements, net (23) (6)
Transfers in and/or out of Level 3 (3) $ (5)
Fair value of net plan assets $ 58