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Benefit Plans Contributions (Details) - USD ($) | 12 Months Ended
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Sep. 30, 2022 | Sep. 30, 2021 | Sep. 30, 2020 | Sep. 30, 2019
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure |  |  |  |
Defined contribution plan contribution amount |  | $ 92,000,000 | $ 88,000,000 | $ 84,000,000
Other postretirement benefit contributions |  | 25,000,000 |  |
Contribution related to TVARS case |  | 5,000,000 |  |
Expected Payment for Postretirement Benefits |  | 24,000,000 |  |
Supplemental Employee Retirement Plans, Defined Benefit |  |  |  |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure |  |  |  |
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Payments Related to SERP |  | 7,000,000 |  |
Defined Benefit Plan, Related to SERP |  | 6,000,000 | 5,000,000 |
Other Post-retirement Benefits |  |  |  |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure |  |  |  |
Employer contributions |  | 27,000,000 | 26,000,000 |
Pension Benefits |  |  |  |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure |  |  |  |
Employer contributions |  | 306,000,000 | $ 305,000,000 |
Other Pension Plans, Defined Benefit |  |  |  |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure |  |  |  |
Employer contributions |  | 300,000,000 |  |
Minimum | Other Pension Plans, Defined Benefit |  |  |  |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure |  |  |  |
Employer contributions |  | $ 300,000,000 |  |
Scenario, Forecast |  |  |  |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure |  |  |  |
Defined contribution plan contribution amount | $ 97,000,000 |  |  |
Scenario, Forecast | Other Pension Plans, Defined Benefit |  |  |  |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure |  |  |  |
Employer contributions | $ 300,000,000 |  |  |

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