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Benefit Plans Fair Value Measurements (Details)
$ in Millions
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2021
USD ($)
Years
Sep. 30, 2020
USD ($)
Oct. 01, 2019
USD ($)
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets $ 9,749 $ 8,368  
Derivative liabilities 136 135  
Net payables 263 107  
Payables for collateral on loaned securities $ 240 167  
Voting percentage required to desolve partnership in private equity 80.00%    
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets $ 2,898 2,679  
Derivative liabilities 4 1  
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 2,755 2,561  
Derivative liabilities 132 134  
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 74 94 $ 42
Derivative liabilities 0 0  
Equity securities      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 992 1,624  
Equity securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 990 1,621  
Equity securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Equity securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 2 3  
Preferred securities      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 9 11  
Preferred securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 2 0  
Preferred securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 6 11  
Preferred securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 1 0  
Corporate debt securities      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 1,360 1,421  
Corporate debt securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Corporate debt securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 1,359 1,418  
Corporate debt securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 1 3  
Residential mortgage-backed securities      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 275 317  
Residential mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Residential mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 267 314  
Residential mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 8 3  
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 741 701  
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 741 701  
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Asset-backed securities      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 151 116  
Asset-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Asset-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 110 88  
Asset-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 41 28  
Debt securities issued by state/local governments      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 28 23  
Debt securities issued by state/local governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Debt securities issued by state/local governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 28 23  
Debt securities issued by state/local governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Debt securities issued by foreign governments      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 204 231  
Debt securities issued by foreign governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Debt securities issued by foreign governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 200 179  
Debt securities issued by foreign governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 4 52  
Commercial mortgage-backed securities      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 168 91  
Commercial mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Commercial mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 151 86  
Commercial mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 17 5  
Equity security commingled funds      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 619 931  
Equity security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Equity security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Equity security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Debt security commingled funds      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 881 203  
Debt security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Debt security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Debt security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Blended security commingled funds      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 105 102  
Blended security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Blended security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Blended security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Institutional mutual funds      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 841 277  
Institutional mutual funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 841 277  
Institutional mutual funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Institutional mutual funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 710 338  
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 323 77  
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 387 261  
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Private Credit [Member]      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 324 166  
Private Credit [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Private Credit [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Private Credit [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Private equity funds measured at net asset value      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 1,333 1,003  
Private equity funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Private equity funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Private equity funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Private real estate funds      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 760 629  
Private real estate funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Private real estate funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Private real estate funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Securities lending commingled funds      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 240 167  
Securities lending commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Securities lending commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 240 167  
Securities lending commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Futures      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 1 3  
Derivative liabilities 4 1  
Futures | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 1 3  
Derivative liabilities 4 1  
Futures | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Derivative liabilities 0 0  
Futures | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Derivative liabilities 0 0  
Purchased options      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 6 10  
Purchased options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Purchased options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 6 10  
Purchased options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Interest Rate Swap      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities 23 6  
Interest Rate Swap | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities 0 0  
Interest Rate Swap | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities 23 6  
Interest Rate Swap | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities 0 0  
Foreign currency forward      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 1 2  
Derivative liabilities 1 3  
Foreign currency forward | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Derivative liabilities 0 0  
Foreign currency forward | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 1 2  
Derivative liabilities 1 3  
Foreign currency forward | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets 0 0  
Derivative liabilities 0 0  
Written options      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets   2  
Written options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets   0  
Written options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets   2  
Written options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fair value of gross plan assets   0  
Credit default swaps      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities   2  
Credit default swaps | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities   0  
Credit default swaps | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities   2  
Credit default swaps | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities   0  
Securities Sold under Agreements to Repurchase [Member]      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities 108 123  
Securities Sold under Agreements to Repurchase [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities 0 0  
Securities Sold under Agreements to Repurchase [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities 108 123  
Securities Sold under Agreements to Repurchase [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Derivative liabilities $ 0 $ 0  
Minimum      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Number of years partnerships in private equity generally continue | Years 10    
Number of one year extensions for partnerships in private equity | Years 2    
Maximum      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Number of years partnerships in private equity generally continue | Years 14    
Number of one year extensions for partnerships in private equity | Years 3