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Benefit Plans Fair Value Measurements Using Significant Unobservable Inputs (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Millions
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2021
Sep. 30, 2020
Oct. 01, 2019
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Net payables $ 263 $ 107  
Payables for collateral on loaned securities 240 167  
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]      
Fair value of gross plan assets 9,749 8,368  
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]      
Fair value of gross plan assets 74 94 $ 42
Net realized/unrealized gains (48) 46  
Purchases, sales, issuances, and settlements, net 32 11  
Transfers in and/or out of Level 3 (4) $ (5)  
Fair value of net plan assets $ 74