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Benefit Plans Fair Value Measurements Using Significant Unobservable Inputs (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Millions
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2022
Sep. 30, 2021
Oct. 01, 2019
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Net payables $ 100 $ 263  
Payables for collateral on loaned securities 196 240  
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]      
Fair value of gross plan assets 8,566 9,749  
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3      
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]      
Fair value of gross plan assets 62 74 $ 94
Net realized/unrealized gains (4) (48)  
Purchases, sales, issuances, and settlements, net 2 32  
Transfers in and/or out of Level 3 (10) $ (4)  
Fair value of net plan assets $ 62