Benefit Plans Actuarial Assumptions (Details) - USD ($)	12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2023	Sep. 30, 2022	Sep. 30, 2021	Sep. 30, 2024
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Defined Benefit Plan, Cost of Living Adjustment Assumption	0.25%
Pension Benefits
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Discount rate	5.60%	2.90%	2.75%
Discount rate	5.95%	5.60%	2.90%
Rate of compensation increase	4.05%	3.32%
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used Calculating Benefit Obligation, Weighted-Average Interest Crediting Rate	5.13%	5.14%
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used Calculating Net Periodic Benefit Cost, Weighted-Average Interest Crediting Rate	5.14%	5.14%	5.15%
Expected return on plan assets	6.50%	5.75%	6.75%
Defined Benefit Plan, Cost of Living Adjustment Assumption	2.00%	2.00%	2.00%
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used Calculating Net Periodic Benefit Cost, Rate of Compensation Increase		3.32%	3.37%
COLA percentage increase (decrease)	6.00%
Actual Return on Plan Assets	6.13%	(6.64%)	20.30%
Other Post-retirement Benefits
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Discount rate	5.65%	3.05%	3.05%
Discount rate	6.05%	5.65%	305.00%
Defined Benefit Plan, Cost of Living Adjustment Assumption	2.00%	2.00%	2.00%
Minimum
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Rate of compensation increase	3.00%
Maximum
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Rate of compensation increase	5.50%
Scenario, Forecast \| Pension Benefits
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Defined Benefit Plan, Cost of Living Adjustment Assumption Next Fiscal Year				4.05%
Post-Medicare Eligible [Member] [Member] \| Other Post-retirement Benefits
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Current health care cost trend rate	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%
Ultimate health care cost trend rate	4.00%	4.00%	4.00%
Year health care cost ultimate trend rate is reached for Net Benefit Cost Assumption	2026	2024	2024
Defined Benefit Plan, Year Health Care Cost Trend Rate Reaches Ultimate Trend Rate	2026	2026
Pre-Medicare Eligible per Capita Claim Costs \| Other Post-retirement Benefits
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Current health care cost trend rate	7.00%	6.25%	6.50%
Ultimate health care cost trend rate	5.00%	5.00%	5.00%
Defined Benefit Plan, Year Health Care Cost Trend Rate Reaches Ultimate Trend Rate	2034	2031	2027
Initial health care cost trend rate	$ 0.0750	$ 0.0700
Defined Benefit Plan, Year ultimate trend rate is reached for net periodic benefit	2031	2027
Pre-Medicare Eligible per Capita Contributions \| Other Post-retirement Benefits
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Current health care cost trend rate	5.00%	8.51%	11.93%
Ultimate health care cost trend rate	5.00%	5.00%	5.00%
Defined Benefit Plan, Year ultimate trend rate is reached per capita contributions		2027
Defined Benefit Plan, Year Health Care Cost Trend Rate Reaches Ultimate Trend Rate	2022	2022	2027
Initial health care cost trend rate	$ 0.0500	$ 0.0500

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COLA percentage increase (decrease)

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The cost of living adjustment percentage used for defined benefit plans.

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The cost of living adjustment percentage used for defined benefit plans for next fiscal year.

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Defined Benefit Plan, Year ultimate trend rate is reached for net periodic benefit

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Defined Benefit Plan, Year ultimate trend rate is reached per capita contributions

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Initial health care cost trend rate

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Year health care cost ultimate trend rate is expected to be reached for Net Benefit Cost Assumption

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- Definition

Weighted average rate for present value of future retirement benefits cash flows, used to determine benefit obligation of defined benefit plan.

+ References

Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/disclosureRef
-Topic 715
-SubTopic 20
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Section 50
-Paragraph 1
-Subparagraph (k)(1)
-Publisher FASB
-URI https://asc.fasb.org//1943274/2147480506/715-20-50-1

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Weighted average rate increase of compensation, used to determine benefit obligation of defined benefit plan. Plan includes, but is not limited to, pay-related defined benefit plan.

+ References

Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/disclosureRef
-Topic 715
-SubTopic 20
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Section 50
-Paragraph 1
-Subparagraph (k)(2)
-Publisher FASB
-URI https://asc.fasb.org//1943274/2147480506/715-20-50-1

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Weighted-average interest crediting rate used to determine benefit obligation of defined benefit plan. Plan includes, but is not limited to, cash balance and other defined benefit plans with promised interest crediting rate.

+ References

Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/disclosureRef
-Topic 715
-SubTopic 20
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Section 50
-Paragraph 1
-Subparagraph (k)(4)
-Publisher FASB
-URI https://asc.fasb.org//1943274/2147480506/715-20-50-1

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Weighted average rate for present value of future retirement benefits cash flows, used to determine net periodic benefit cost of defined benefit plan.

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Weighted average rate of return on plan assets, reflecting average rate of earnings expected on existing plan assets and expected contributions, used to determine net periodic benefit cost of defined benefit plan.

+ References

Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/disclosureRef
-Topic 715
-SubTopic 20
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Section 50
-Paragraph 8
-Publisher FASB
-URI https://asc.fasb.org//1943274/2147480506/715-20-50-8

Reference 2: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/disclosureRef
-Topic 715
-SubTopic 20
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Section 50
-Paragraph 1
-Subparagraph (k)(3)
-Publisher FASB
-URI https://asc.fasb.org//1943274/2147480506/715-20-50-1

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Weighted average rate of compensation increase used to determine net periodic benefit cost of defined benefit plan. Plan includes, but is not limited to, pay-related defined benefit plan.

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Weighted-average interest crediting rate used to determine net periodic benefit cost of defined benefit plan. Plan includes, but is not limited to, cash balance and other defined benefit plans with promised interest crediting rate.

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Assumed rate, for next fiscal year, based on annual change in cost of health care cost benefits used to measure expected cost of benefits covered by defined benefit postretirement plan. Factors include, but are not limited to, estimate of health care inflation, change in health care utilization or delivery pattern, technological advances, and change in health status of participant. Excludes factors for change in composition of plan population by age and dependency status.

+ References

Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/disclosureRef
-Topic 715
-SubTopic 20
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Section 50
-Paragraph 1
-Subparagraph (l)
-Publisher FASB
-URI https://asc.fasb.org//1943274/2147480506/715-20-50-1

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Ultimate trend rate for health care cost for defined benefit postretirement plan.

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