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Benefit Plans Sensitivity to Certain Changes in Pension Assumptions (Details) - USD ($)	12 Months Ended
	Sep. 30, 2023	Sep. 30, 2022	Sep. 30, 2021
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Defined Benefit Plan, Cost of Living Adjustment Assumption	0.25%
Discount rate
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Change in Assumption	(0.25%)
Impact on Pension Cost	$ 12,000,000
Impact on Projected Benefit Obligation	$ 236,000,000
Rate of return on plan assets
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Change in Assumption	(0.25%)
Impact on Pension Cost	$ 19,000,000
Cost of Living Adjustments [Domain]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Change in Assumption	0.25%
Impact on Pension Cost	$ 24,000,000
Impact on Projected Benefit Obligation	$ 165,000,000
Other Post-retirement Benefits
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Defined Benefit Plan, Cost of Living Adjustment Assumption	2.00%	2.00%	2.00%
Discount rate	6.05%	5.65%	305.00%
Actuarial assumption COLA	$ 0.06	$ 0.035	$ 0.0113
Pension Benefits
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Defined Benefit Plan, Cost of Living Adjustment Assumption	2.00%	2.00%	2.00%
COLA percentage increase (decrease)	6.00%
Discount rate	5.95%	5.60%	2.90%

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The change in the discount date or the rate of return on plan assets assumption that is used in disclosure of sensitivity of the net periodic pension cost and the projected benefit obligation to changes in those rates.

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The cost of living adjustment percentage used for defined benefit plans.

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Amount of effect of change in rate on the net periodic benefit cost for pension benefits.

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Amount of effect of change in rate on the projected benefit obligation for pension benefits.

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Weighted average rate for present value of future retirement benefits cash flows, used to determine benefit obligation of defined benefit plan.

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Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/disclosureRef
-Topic 715
-SubTopic 20
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Section 50
-Paragraph 1
-Subparagraph (k)(1)
-Publisher FASB
-URI https://asc.fasb.org//1943274/2147480506/715-20-50-1

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