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Benefit Plans Fair Value Measurements Using Significant Unobservable Inputs (Details) - USD ($) $ in Millions	12 Months Ended
	Sep. 30, 2023	Sep. 30, 2022	Oct. 01, 2019
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure
Net payables	$ 167	$ 100
Payables for collateral on loaned securities	181	196
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]
Fair value of gross plan assets	8,605	8,566
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]
Fair value of gross plan assets	60	62	$ 74
Net realized/unrealized gains	1	(4)
Purchases, sales, issuances, and settlements, net	2	2
Transfers in and/or out of Level 3	(5)	$ (10)
Fair value of net plan assets	$ 60

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Assets, usually stocks, bonds, and other investments, that have been segregated and restricted (usually in a trust) to provide benefits, at their fair value as of the measurement date. Plan assets include amounts contributed by the employer (and by employees for a contributory plan) and amounts earned from investing the contributions, less benefits paid. This amount is not reduced by non-benefit liabilities.

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Amount of increase (decrease) in plan assets of defined benefit plan from actual return (loss) determined by change in fair value of plan assets adjusted for contributions, benefit payments, and other expenses.

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Amount of asset segregated and restricted to provide benefit under defined benefit plan. Asset includes, but is not limited to, stock, bond, other investment, earning from investment, and contribution by employer and employee.

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Amount, measured using unobservable input, of increase (decrease) in plan asset of defined benefit plan from purchase, sale and settlement of trade associated with underlying investment.

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Amount, measured using unobservable inputs, of increase (decrease) in plan assets of defined benefit plan, for assets transferred into (out of) Level 3 of fair value hierarchy. Includes, but is not limited to, transfer due to change in observability of significant inputs.

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