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Benefit Plans Components of Benefit Plans (Details) - USD ($)
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2024
Sep. 30, 2023
Sep. 30, 2022
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Fixed and variable fund annual maximum contribution $ 10,000    
Defined contribution plan contribution amount 116,000,000 $ 105,000,000 $ 97,000,000
Nonqualified Excess 401(k) Plan 1,000,000 1,000,000  
Accounts Payable and Accrued Liabilities, Current $ 2,910,000,000 $ 2,618,000,000  
Minimum      
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure      
Threshold for Deferral of Actuarial Gain/Loss Under Corridor Approach 10.00%