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Other investments (Details 2) - CHF (SFr)
SFr in Millions
12 Months Ended
Dec. 31, 2023
Dec. 31, 2022
Dec. 31, 2021
Other investments      
Impairments and downward adjustments SFr (66)    
Impairments and downward adjustments, Annual Amount (14) SFr (12)  
Upward adjustments 147    
Upward adjustments, Annual Amount 0 9  
Other Revenue, Other Investments SFr (660) SFr (38) SFr 256