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Pension and other post-retirement benefits - Plan assets measured at fair value roll-forward (Details 4) - International - CHF (SFr)
SFr in Millions
12 Months Ended
Dec. 31, 2023
Dec. 31, 2022
Defined benefit pension plans    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period SFr 2,316 SFr 3,802
Foreign currency translation impact (126) (262)
End of the measurement period 2,166 2,316
Defined benefit pension plans | Debt securities    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 2,070  
End of the measurement period 1,787 2,070
Defined benefit pension plans | Corporate debt securities    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 804  
End of the measurement period 757 804
Defined benefit pension plans | Government debt securities    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 1,266  
End of the measurement period 1,030 1,266
Defined benefit pension plans | Equity securities    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 106  
End of the measurement period 70 106
Defined benefit pension plans | Alternative investments    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period (59)  
End of the measurement period (10) (59)
Defined benefit pension plans | Other alternative investments    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period (59)  
End of the measurement period (10) (59)
Defined benefit pension plans | Other investments, plan assets    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 81  
End of the measurement period 74 81
Defined benefit pension plans | Level 3    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 0  
End of the measurement period 0 0
Defined benefit pension plans | Level 3 | Debt securities    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 0  
End of the measurement period 0 0
Defined benefit pension plans | Level 3 | Corporate debt securities    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 0  
End of the measurement period 0 0
Defined benefit pension plans | Level 3 | Government debt securities    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 0  
End of the measurement period 0 0
Defined benefit pension plans | Level 3 | Equity securities    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 0  
End of the measurement period 0 0
Defined benefit pension plans | Level 3 | Alternative investments    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 0  
End of the measurement period 0 0
Defined benefit pension plans | Level 3 | Other alternative investments    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 0  
End of the measurement period 0 0
Defined benefit pension plans | Level 3 | Other investments, plan assets    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 0  
End of the measurement period 0 0
Other post-retirement defined benefit plans    
Defined Benefit Plan, Change in Fair Value of Plan Assets, Level 3 Reconciliation [Roll Forward]    
Beginning of the measurement period 0 0
Foreign currency translation impact 0 0
End of the measurement period SFr 0 SFr 0